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Old 12-11-2009, 01:47 AM   #1
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Default Help! Stale, Cardboard Taste

My Rye IPA: this is my 5th batch of beer. First one to turn out tasting so badly.

- 4 weeks in primary
- 6 weeks in secondary dry hopping
- 5 weeks in the bottle

is very nice and clear beer, and smells nice and hoppy as expected...but it tastes horrible! It is super bitter, and the aftertaste is a harsh stale dry cardboard. I can't get half a bottle drank before I just dump it.

I have been a bottle the past 3 weeks and it actually seems like it's getting worse. The carbonation is Ok, not a huge head but not out of the ordinary either.

it seems like oxidation might be a possible source. If so, can the "power of bottle conditioning" can fix this one? Am I past the point of no return? when do i call it quits and dump it? Love this forum. Thanks!

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Old 12-11-2009, 02:06 AM   #2
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Did you cork these bottles?

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Old 12-11-2009, 02:07 AM   #3
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Im still learning myself but, you dry hopped for 6 weeks?! I've heard that you never want to go more than 10-14 days dry hopping. Anything after that can impart harsh vegetable flavors. That might be one of your problems right there. Im interested to see what others think.

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- nope no cork regular caps, and rubber stoppers in the carboys (glass primary, glass secondary).

- I dry hopped for that long to keep get good clarity. I used hop pellets. (and I was out of town for a while)

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Im still learning myself but, you dry hopped for 6 weeks?! I've heard that you never want to go more than 10-14 days dry hopping. Anything after that can impart harsh vegetable flavors. That might be one of your problems right there. Im interested to see what others think.
Agree...6 weeks try hopping is about 5 too long. Also, it does sound like some oxidation occured. If oxidation occured time will not heal that issue.
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cardboard flavors = oxidization.

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Yeah oxidation was my first thought reading the title.

Interesting to see that you dry-hopped for 6 weeks though...that's just insanely long.

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E-2-Nonaneal? How warm were your bottle stored?

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+1 Oxidation...

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E-2-Nonaneal? How warm were your bottle stored?
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