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Old 04-12-2013, 08:49 AM   #1
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Default Help with Sierra Nevada Clone

Found a recipe of a Sierra Nevada Clone online that looked good and ordered all the ingredients.
However, when I added the recipe in BeerSmith I get a lot of the numbers wrong.

Original Recipe

1 lb Crystal Malt 60L
6 lb Breiss Light Dry DME

60 min .33 oz Magnum 14,4%
30 min .6 oz Perle 6.9%
10 min 1 oz Cascade 5.6%
0 min 2 oz Cascade 5.6%

Safale US-05

OG: 1.053
FG: 1.012
IBUs: 37
ABV: 5.9%

3 gal water in kettle, top up with water to 5.5 gal in fermenter.


What I get from BeerSmith

SN Pale Ale Clone
American Pale Ale

Type: Extract
Date: 2013-04-12
Batch Size (fermenter): 5.50 gal
Boil Size: 2.82 gal
Boil Time: 60 min
Equipment: Pot ( 3 Gal/11.4 L) - Extract
End of Boil Volume 2.60 gal
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Final Bottling Volume: 5.10 gal
Est Mash Efficiency 0.0 %
Fermentation: Ale, Single Stage

Ingredients
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
6 lbs Extra Light Dry Extract (5.9 EBC) Dry Extract 2 85.7 %
1 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (118.2 EBC) Grain 1 14.3 %
0.33 oz Magnum [13.80 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 3 8.6 IBUs
0.60 oz Perle [9.00 %] - Boil 30.0 min Hop 4 7.9 IBUs
1.00 oz Cascade [6.90 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 5 4.7 IBUs
2.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Aroma Steep 0.0 min Hop 6 0.0 IBUs
1.0 pkg Safale American (DCL/Fermentis #US-05) [50.28 ml] Yeast 7
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Beer Profile
Est Original Gravity: 1.049 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.011 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 4.9 %
Bitterness: 21.9 IBUs
Calories: 151.6 kcal/12oz
Est Color: 17.1 EBC


Can't see what I'm doing wrong here really? Should I follow the original recipe and still get a good beer or is there any reason to add more hops for IBUs?

Many thanks!

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Old 04-12-2013, 09:14 AM   #2
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Well, for one thing, the alpha acid %'s are different for both recipes. Also, the original recipe is probably for 5 gallons and Beersmith is set at 5.5. Honestly, the difference between the two doesn't amount to much. If you want, bump up the bittering hops a little bit. Other than that I wouldn't worry about it.

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Thanks BBL_Brewer,

Yes, I noticed that the alpha %'s that I ordered was slightly different from the recipe.
However, the original recipe actually says to top up to the 5.5 gal mark so that's why I put that number in to BeerSmith.

If I bump the Magnum hop to .9 oz instead of .33 I get a IBUs reading of 37.2 which is almost spot on. Would that be a good solution or should I and a little less and also put some more of the Perle hops in?

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^^Agreed. Make sure you have the correct alpha acid values entered into BeerSmith if you want a clearer estimate of IBU's. I would also adjust the bittering hops. I did an SNPA clone a couple months ago with the following hop schedule:

1.0 oz Perle for 60 min (6.5%)
1.0 oz Cascade for 15 min (6.2%)
0.5 oz Cascade at flameout.
35.1 IBU's

I think your hop schedule looks tasty but if I were to play around with it a little, I think that 2 oz of cascade at flameout is a lot for this beer. Maybe take an ounce of that and add it earlier. That will add some IBU'S. Or, you could bump up that magnum add a tad to a half an ounce. Who knows right? Don't get me wrong, what you already have looks good too. It's about personal preference. IF I were to play with it, that is what I would do.

Edit: You posted while I was typing my reply. Meet in the middle. Bump the magnum and Perle adds up a little bit.

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Thanks alot guys! As this is my first ever brew I'm a bit worried about getting it all right.

I changed the hop schedule to this:
0.5 oz Magnum for 60 min (13.8%)
0.8 oz Perle for 30 min (9%)
1.0 oz Cascade for 15 min (6.9%)
1.0 oz Cascade for 5 min
1.0 oz Cascade at flameout

33.7 IBUs

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Thanks alot guys! As this is my first ever brew I'm a bit worried about getting it all right.

I changed the hop schedule to this:
0.5 oz Magnum for 60 min (13.8%)
0.8 oz Perle for 30 min (9%)
1.0 oz Cascade for 15 min (6.9%)
1.0 oz Cascade for 5 min
1.0 oz Cascade at flameout

33.7 IBUs
Good luck! I think you'll like how your new hop schedule turns out.
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That seams like a lot of crystal 60.

You might consider using:
1/2 lb crystal 60 and
1/2 lb carapils

These are pretty common specialty grains for a pale ale.

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Take at look at biermunchers nierra sevada receipe. It is almost spot on. http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f66/nier...a-clone-27673/

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