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Old 01-27-2014, 09:26 PM   #1
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Ok so I went to get some brewing stuff today because my birthday is tomorrow and my swmbo surprised me and bought me the ingredients I wanted. I wasn't exactly prepared when she brought me and so I started fumbling through English Brown Ales on this site. Every time I found a recipe there were some ingredients that were not available to me. As I am knew at this, I don't the appropriate substitutes for various ingredients. So in the end, I decided to try and build my own recipe for a brown ale. I have no idea how I did or how it will turn out but before I start milling all the grains into a grain bill I thought I would post and ask for advice on this recipe. If I am missing anything that might make this beer better or have a wrong ingredient that just won't work, feel free to let me know. This is my first try on my own so feel free to guide me down a malty, biscuity, and beautifully brown ale.

Here is what I purchased
10# Maris Otter Malt
1# Victory Malt
1# Aromatic malt
1# Chocolate malt
1# Crystal 60
1oz Nugget Hops
1oz East Kent Goldings
1 vial White Labs London Ale

I type everything into an app called brew log and it gave me a few estimates for a 5.5 gallon batch

OG 1.068
FG 1.020
ABV 6.7
IBU 19
SRM 35L

The hop profile I entered was 1oz east kent Goldings at 60 min and .5 oz nugget at 15 min


Thanks for the advice in advance.

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Old 01-27-2014, 09:35 PM   #2
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That's a pretty big brown ale (14 lb grainbill); most are in the 1.035-1.050 gravity range which equates to maybe 7-10 lbs of grain (approx). At 14lbs, I would guess you're in the 1.070+ range. An imperial brown maybe? It kind of strikes me as a robust porter without the roasted barley. However, you dice it, I think it would be good . Probably taste somewhere between a brown and porter with a kick

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Old 01-27-2014, 09:47 PM   #3
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Happy Birthday and welcome to the hobby! That recipe isn't too bad for a first start!

First, can you provide us with more information on your mash? What temperature do you plan to mash at? And unless you tell us otherwise, we'll assume a single step, 60 minute mash.

Based on what you have here, this is my input:

The color you have is way too dark. 35 SRM is pitch black. Cut back on the chocolate malt. In your brewing app, you should be targetting 17-20 SRM.

This is pretty strong for an English Brown. You may consider cutting it back if you're trying to be true to style, but that's your call.

A full pound of crystal malt will leave a lot of residual sugars. You mentioned wanting a malty & biscuity beer, so I would tone the crystal down to better showcase your MO/Victory malts.

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If you are looking at an English Brown, then your Original and Final gravities are too high (at least if you want to follow the style). You should lower your grain bill.

Also, your final is so high I would ask what temp you will be mashing at.

Aromatic malt is also some pretty strong stuff, so I would reduce it--or my preference would be to completely remove it. You don't need it.

I would also reduce the crystal malt.

You are using Nugget (an American bittering hop) for a flavor addition, but a really good English aroma/flavor hop for bittering (it is fine for bittering). I would lose the Nugget and either do all additions in EKG or swap the Nugget out for something more English--like Fuggles. Of course, you can do the hop additions the original way if you choose.

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Awesome! This is exactly what I was looking for. I will definitely play around with the numbers.

So far this is what I have gotten
I should lower the amount of total grain
Lower the chocolate and crystal
Aim for a MUCH lower SRM

I do a single 60 min mash just because that's the only one I have tried. I try to hit 154 but am open for suggestions.

What do we think of the hops?

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Thanks for your input on the hops as well!

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If you want to use the nugget, use it for bittering and the EKGs for flavor. I'd prefer to see you use just one addition of hops, the EKGs at 60 minutes. Go for an OG of about 1.045-1.050, so bitter to about 20 IBUs or so.

For your grainbill, I'd suggest no aromatic malt for this beer and not all of the chocolate malt.

How about something like this:
6 pounds MO
1 pound crystal (some darker crystal would be nice, but if you only have the 60, that's ok)
.5 pound victory malt (for nutty flavor and toastiness)
.25 pound chocolate malt (to get to an SRM of about 19-20, but it will provide some roastiness as well so don't use too much!)
EKG hops 60 minutes (to about 20 IBUs)

A pound of crystal is a good thing in a beer with victory (toasty/nutty) and chocolate (roasty) to balance it out well.

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154 should work well for a brown ale.

Good luck and happy brewing!

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I played around with the numbers in this app

6lbs Maris otter
1lb Victory
.5lb Crystal 60
.5 aromatic
.5 chocolate

Total weight 8.75
Est OG 1.041
Est FG 1.012
SRM 23

Still thinking about the hops. May just go East Kent Goldings only. Would that make sense?

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If I drop the chocolate to .25 the SRM estimate is 17

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