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Old 08-28-2006, 01:22 PM   #1
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I have an extreme after taste on my first brew, I can't tell what it tastes like other than to say it has an extract type flavor. The odd thing is every one of my buddies beers has the same flavor. Is this just a homebrew thing or is there something we are doing wrong? Could this be DMS from not cooling fast enough?

Is there anyone local to me who would be willing to give a taste? The initial flavor is pretty good but it finishes very harsh.

let me know what kind of details you need, as far as I could tell I did everything according to the book.

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Old 08-28-2006, 01:32 PM   #2
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Could you try and describe the after taste a bit more and also what recipe you used?

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Old 08-28-2006, 01:34 PM   #3
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These two references should help you narrow down the problem.

http://www.howtobrew.com/section4/chapter21-2.html
http://www.mrgoodbeer.com/flavor.shtml

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Old 08-28-2006, 01:46 PM   #4
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These two references should help you narrow down the problem.

http://www.howtobrew.com/section4/chapter21-2.html
http://www.mrgoodbeer.com/flavor.shtml

Unfortunately I can't say for certain what taste it has. I really don't know what a green apple tastes like so it might be that. I know I have tasted the same thing in my buddies home brew, he calls it the homebrew taste but I have to assume it doesn't belong there. At least I have to hope because it is not enjoyable.

Here is the recipie. http://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthre...ht=angry+scott

I used 4oz priming sugar to carb and it has been in the bottles for 2 weeks. His bottles have the same flavor after months so I don't think it will go away. Ferment temps were between 68-74 throughout.

sorry I can't describe the taste better I'm still too new at this to know for sure. it is kind of a syrup taste.
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Would you describe it as a molassesy flavour? My first three kit batches had this malty or molasses flavour to them. On my four batch, using the same kit, I let the beer condition in the bottles for an extra wk. or two (more than the instructions called for), with great results. Maybe your brew is still too "young"?

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Extract twang?

Honestly, it was the main reason I went over to AG. However, I've had a few extract beers that don't have it as bad. All of mine did--and it kind of made every batch taste the same--whether it was a stout or a pale ale.

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What size are your boils? Just wondering if it might be the taste of some carmelization because you have a lot of extract in that last brew.

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What size are your boils? Just wondering if it might be the taste of some carmelization because you have a lot of extract in that last brew.

My boil was 2.5-3 gallons.

I've heard of this extract twang before.

I have to ask, those of you using extract are you producing beers that taste as good or better than commercial examples? I keep hearing how much better homebrew tasted but I've yet to sample one that is great.

My LHBS has a brew club meeting Saturday so I'm taking some along to get opinions and hopefully I can sample some others.


I'm getting a 15 gallon pot and plan to do full boils from now on in case that has an effect. Is it just the extract? I've been thinking of going AG, if that is what it takes I'm fine with that. There isn't much point in saving money by doing homebrew if I can't drink it.
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As an aside, I would not expect a 1.080 OG beer to be even near it's final flavors until 2-3 months after brew day.

Also, was the LME in a can? I always got that "extract twang" from LME in a can--getting it in bulk in a plastic jug (or using DME) always seemd to yield much better results.

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Extract twang?

Honestly, it was the main reason I went over to AG. However, I've had a few extract beers that don't have it as bad. All of mine did--and it kind of made every batch taste the same--whether it was a stout or a pale ale.

Im with Dude on this one. Most of my extracts had a certain "twang" and yea, that word pretty much sums it up.
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