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Old 11-04-2008, 06:53 PM   #1
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I bought a brewers best Ipa kit but want to make some changes since I want a MUCH hoppier beer than they were offering. I have some left over hops from other brews and started fooling around with the brewing calculator on beercalculus.com... here's what I was thinking.

6.6 Muntons LME
1lb Crystal 60L
1lb Crystal 10L (my addition)
.8oz Crushed Victory

2oz Cascade 60min
1oz Hallertau 10min (my addition)
1oz Cascade 5min
1oz Gallena 5min (my addition)
(all my hops are pellets)


Switch from Windsor Dry Ale Yeast to WhiteLabs American Ale (WLP060)

OG - 1.059
FG - 1.014
Alcohol - 6% abv


I still have 1oz Galena, 1oz Czech Saaz that I could add.

I know the Galena has a crazy high AA. Whats the best way to use these Finishing, bittering, or dry??

I also have a HUGE brewpot and could boil the whole 5 gallons. Is this a good idea?

I'd also like to up the alcohol % for all the obvious reasons

Any suggestions?? I'm going to my LHBS in a few hours. I would like this to be a special brew since its my Election Day IPA (it'll be a brew of celebration... hopefully).

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Old 11-04-2008, 06:57 PM   #2
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Wouldnt a late Galena addition mostly add hop aroma? If you added it alot earlier then that it would make a much more bitter taste.

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Old 11-04-2008, 07:13 PM   #3
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I bought a brewers best Ipa kit but want to make some changes since I want a MUCH hoppier beer than they were offering. I have some left over hops from other brews and started fooling around with the brewing calculator on beercalculus.com... here's what I was thinking.

6.6 Muntons LME
1oz Crystal 60L
1oz Crystal 10L (my addition)
.8oz Crushed Victory

2oz Cascade 60min
1oz Hallertau 10min (my addition)
1oz Cascade 5min
1oz Gallena 5min (my addition)
(all my hops are pellets)


Switch from Windsor Dry Ale Yeast to WhiteLabs American Ale (WLP060)

OG - 1.059
FG - 1.014
Alcohol - 6% abv


I still have 1oz Galena, 1oz Czech Saaz that I could add.

I know the Galena has a crazy high AA. Whats the best way to use these Finishing, bittering, or dry??

I also have a HUGE brewpot and could boil the whole 5 gallons. Is this a good idea?

I'd also like to up the alcohol % for all the obvious reasons

Any suggestions?? I'm going to my LHBS in a few hours. I would like this to be a special brew since its my Election Day IPA (it'll be a brew of celebration... hopefully).
I'd use the Galena for bittering. Do something like:

1 oz Galena 10-14% aa 60 min
1 oz Cascade 5-7% aa 30 min
1 oz Cascade 5-7% aa 15 min
1 oz Cascade 5-7% aa 0 min

this should get you around +50IBUs and plenty of hop flavor/aroma, maybe dry hop 1-2 oz Cascade...Both saaz and hallertauer would get lost in the cascades so I wouldn't use them in this style (American IPA)but that's personal preference.

The grain amounts seem weird, a half pound of each crystal and 1/4-1/2 pound victory would work well, and if you add 1-2 pounds 2 row and mini mash you'll get the gravity around 1.059 or so.
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yeah, lose the hallertau- that's out of place there and will get "lost" in there.

I'd also bitter with the galena, and move the cascades up to flavor and aroma. What are the AA % of the hops?

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I agree the hallertauer, save those for your wheat beers, also agreed the Galena will be more suitable for the style you are going for... Of course, if your pot is big enough boil all of your wort in the same pot. As for alchohol content, I have not used extract in a while but The Beer Recipator - Home is an awesome site that will help you design your beer based on what you want the final product to taste, look and smell.

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The grain amounts seem weird, a half pound of each crystal and 1/4-1/2 pound victory would work well, and if you add 1-2 pounds 2 row and mini mash you'll get the gravity around 1.059 or so.
I'd rather not mini-mash since this is only my third batch. I already have a lb of the 60. The 10 was an addition I made- in the calculator it made the alcohol% go up. Should I just stick with the 60?

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I'd also bitter with the galena, and move the cascades up to flavor and aroma. What are the AA % of the hops?
The only AA's I have are for the cascades @ 6.3.
All the other packages don't say.
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I'd rather not mini-mash since this is only my third batch. I already have a lb of the 60. The 10 was an addition I made- in the calculator it made the alcohol% go up. Should I just stick with the 60?



The only AA's I have are for the cascades @ 6.3.
All the other packages don't say.
I wouldn't do more than 1 lbs crystal otherwise it may become too sweet. Without mashing any grains your og may go up from the crystal but the fg will be higher.... so maybe do a little less bittering hops(cut the 30 and 15min hops to .5oz each). With 6.6lbs lme +1.5 lbs steeped grains I'm getting around 1.053.
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I love using Amarillo in my IPAs - Especially to dry hop... mmmmm!

Cascade and Amarillo always serve me well – but that might not be adventurous enough for an election day IPA.

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As for alchohol content, I have not used extract in a while but The Beer Recipator - Home is an awesome site that will help you design your beer based on what you want the final product to taste, look and smell.
Wow!! Awesome resource! Thanks...

But how do I judge what my FG will be? Or will I choose that when I decide when to bottle it?
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I'd rather not mini-mash since this is only my third batch. I already have a lb of the 60. The 10 was an addition I made- in the calculator it made the alcohol% go up. Should I just stick with the 60?



The only AA's I have are for the cascades @ 6.3.
All the other packages don't say.
Well, two pounds of crystal is at least one pound too much. So, you should lose one of them. You won't get fermentables from them- I don't know why your ABV% went up in the calculator.

If you're using victory malt, you're mini mashing. Victory must be mashed. So, put the crystal you're using (one pound only) and the victory in the grain bag with 3 quarts of water at 153 degrees, and keep it there for 45 minutes "dunking" the grain bag. Then rinse that grain bag by lifting it up into a colander over the pot, and use .5 gallon of 170 degree water to rinse them. Then, bring the boil volume up to 5.5 gallons (or whatever your boil volume is) by adding water.

I'd recommend this, then:
6.6 pounds LME
1 pound crystal 60L
1/2 pound victory malt

1 ounce Galena 60 minutes
1 ounce cascade 15 minutes
1 ounce cascade 5 minutes
1 ounce cascade flameout.

I'd move the cascade to 15 minutes or less, because you'll have plenty of bittering from the galena, and you want the hoppy flavor so that's why I did all those late additions. If that seems too much, you can reduce those additions to .5 ounce, and use the remainder for dryhopping.

Do you have a wort chiller? It takes a really, really long time to chill 5 gallons of wort without one.
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