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Old 08-29-2012, 04:20 PM   #1
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Default Hello, few newbie questions

I made a batch and I think I screwed it up so I want to make sure I have some of the basics covered here first.

After the boil I know I have to reduce the temperature of the wort (to less than 80 degrees is what my video says) as quickly as possible. If I boiled 3 gallons, is it acceptable to use approximately 12 pounds of ice to quickly lower the temperature while simultaneously adding the additional 2 gallons of water?

Also, after adding the yeast, to aerate the beer is it good practice to just dump it in between two sanitized buckets a few times? Or is stirring for a while just fine?

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Old 08-29-2012, 04:25 PM   #2
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I wouldn't use ice in the wort unless it's ice that you made yourself from sterile (boiled) water and kept sanitized in the freezer. What I do is use an ice bath in my sink or bathtub. Just place the kettle into the sink, surround with ice and you're good. You may have to replace the ice or add cold water to get it all the way cool.
To aerate, you can use the 'pour back and forth' method. I'd do that until you get a good head of foam on the wort, pitch yeast and seal the fermenter up.

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I wouldn't use ice in the wort unless it's ice that you made yourself from sterile (boiled) water and kept sanitized in the freezer. What I do is use an ice bath in my sink or bathtub. Just place the kettle into the sink, surround with ice and you're good. You may have to replace the ice or add cold water to get it all the way cool.
To aerate, you can use the 'pour back and forth' method. I'd do that until you get a good head of foam on the wort, pitch yeast and seal the fermenter up.
No need for sterile water in the freezer the temperature is enough to eliminate any bacteria.
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No need for sterile water in the freezer the temperature is enough to eliminate any bacteria.
Sure about that?
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I see. The things I've read about brewing and microbes in general don't give me the same sense of surety that you seem to have, so I'll continue to think that the freezer (~0 degrees fahrenheit) isn't guaranteed to kill off many microbes.
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i wouldnt throw ice in my wort- no matter what- thats my pay dirt. I dont care how sterile the ice may or may not be.

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I think I would just sanitize some tupperware, fill two gallons of purified water among them and drop blocks of that in there...

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i wouldnt throw ice in my wort- no matter what- thats my pay dirt. I dont care how sterile the ice may or may not be.
Very much agreed. I didn't like the idea of top up water very much either when I was still doing partial boils. I only used bottled water for top up then. There's too many risks involved in the ice thing, and unless you can make ice from sterile water, in a sanitized and sealed environment, I'd never suggest adding it to wort post boil.
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The most common bacteria that infects beer will live through the freezing process (in fact most bacteria samples for long term storage are stored frozen). Freezing does not kill most bacteria anyway, including yeast. Freezing places bacteria in suspend mode and they wake and thrive once thawed. So if you intend to add ice directly to your boiled wort you must use sanitized water (boiled) frozen in a sanitized container and kept closed and sanitized until you put in your wort.

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