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Originally Posted by Ooompa Loompa
A long boil can in fact carmalize the extract making it a slightly darker color. How red is it?? If it is only a slight hint of reddish then I would say it could be carmalization.
The late extract addition that he suggested will help some, but I wouldn't boil the hops in just water. I'd add the dry malt extract, boil that with the hops for 60 min, then add the liquid extract in the last 10 minutes of the boil.
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it is very red but gets to be a darker red the longer it is in the bottle.
your answer caused something to click in my puny brain! i forgot to add the dry extract! the new procedure must have really screwed me up.
i scooped out a litre and am dissolving dry extract in a heated pot now. it was really fermenting after about only 4 hours.
thankyou for your answer. very helpful.