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Old 06-17-2010, 06:16 PM   #11
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Glass or stainless for me

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Old 06-17-2010, 06:40 PM   #12
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is there any advantage to using glass carboys as opposed to plastic buckets as your primary and secondary fermenters?
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1) Not all of the information volunteered here is of 100% accuracy.

2) I could tell you to use glass, but if you use the same plastic
bucket over enough times, you'll come to the same conclusion yourself
anyway.

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Old 06-17-2010, 06:42 PM   #13
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I primary in buckets and secondary in carboys, just how it worked out. I secondary all my beers, and the 2 reasons I do: 1. Its the way I learned how to brew and 2. I lets more stuff settle out of the beer after primary is done, and all that stuff makes me get stomach cramps and headaches. If it didn't give me cramps and headaches I would only secondary the BIG beers that need long conditioning times.

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Old 06-17-2010, 06:56 PM   #14
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The most important points are:
1) Not all of the information volunteered here is of 100% accuracy.

2) I could tell you to use glass, but if you use the same plastic
bucket over enough times, you'll come to the same conclusion yourself
anyway.

Ray

In regard to point 2, why?
I've used the same bucket over and over. This weekend will be batch 125 for me, and I've used one of the same 3 buckets for almost every batch. My beer just keeps getting better as I gain experience. I've never notice anything happening to my buckets or the beer in them over time. They still make beer that wins competitions. What have you seen?

BTW I own all three types of fermenters and have used them all for beer. I never noticed a difference at all in the final product. Now I just use bucket for ease of use, plus my carboys are used for mead, wine, and barley wine.
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Old 06-17-2010, 07:36 PM   #15
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BTW I own all three types of fermenters and have used them all for beer. I never noticed a difference at all in the final product. Now I just use bucket for ease of use, plus my carboys are used for mead, wine, and barley wine.
Me too....I have 11 fermenters of all styles, BB's, Glass carboys, Buckets, 3 gallon water jugs, even my old Mr Beer for 2.5 gallon batches, and guess what, they all make beer.

I don't like glass for safety issues, so I use it for long term things like apfelwein, where I'm not going to be moving it around to rack or anything. But other than that, they all make beer.

The idea that one makes better beer over the other is ludicrous.
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Old 06-17-2010, 08:14 PM   #16
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glass is better, but, plastic seems to work just fine. i don't think anyone has said glass makes better beer.

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I agree, unless you're going to be gone a long time. I've noticed some off-flavors when I use a plastic fermenter for more than a month or two; it could be the greater oxygen permeability, it could be flavors that the plastic absorbed from previous brews, it could be compounds in the plastic leaching out. No clue. That's just been my experience.

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It doesn't matter what you use. The glass vs plastic "debate" is pointless, it doesn't matter they all work perfectly fine. One's not better than any other.

There is little "absolutes" in brewing, glass vs plastic, Stainless vs Aluminum, Batch vs fly- they all work fine.

In brewing all that matters is what you prefer. It's up to you to make that decision. But it's not about what's better or worse, just what's better for YOU.

As to the secondary or not issue, there's 10,000,000 or more threads already on here, just look around.

Start with this thread... http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f163/sec...-weigh-176837/
Agreed. As usual, "Revvy" provides a voice of reason. Face it: if any type of fermenter had proven itself measurably superior to any other, the others would have fallen by the wayside long ago. But the processes that become habits in any pastime like this hasn't nearly as much to do with things that are either / or, black / white, as much as it does to attachment to the way things have been done. Hence the origins of the saw "If it ain't broke-"
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Agreed. As usual, "Revvy" provides a voice of reason. Face it: if any type of fermenter had proven itself measurably superior to any other, the others would have fallen by the wayside long ago. But the processes that become habits in any pastime like this hasn't nearly as much to do with things that are either / or, black / white, as much as it does to attachment to the way things have been done. Hence the origins of the saw "If it ain't broke-"
That's not the point. Obviously a new plastic container properly sanitized
will give you good beer. But there's a reason the professionals don't use
it: eventually it becomes fouled. So if you want you can use plastic
until you blow a batch from contamination (or maybe more than one if
you try to get rid of the infection and you can't instead of getting a new
bucket) or you can just use glass to begin with and never worry about it.

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That's not the point. Obviously a new plastic container properly sanitized
will give you good beer. But there's a reason the professionals don't use
it: eventually it becomes fouled. So if you want you can use plastic
until you blow a batch from contamination (or maybe more than one if
you try to get rid of the infection and you can't instead of getting a new
bucket) or you can just use glass to begin with and never worry about it.

Ray
The point is that I should use the same equipment as the professionals? You lost me there, man, I'm an amateur, and proud of it.....and I'm certainly not worried about it.
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