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Grain bill also plays a big part. If you have 30% crystal malts in your grain bill, you are not going to get much attenuation.
Assuming the same grain bill and healthy pitching rates, a higher mash temp will have the biggest impact on attenuation IMO.
Some higher-flocculating yeast strains (like S-04) don't attenuate as well normally because they drop out pretty quickly and form a tight clump on the bottom of the fermenter. If you manually agitate the yeast cake a bit, though, you can get somewhat higher attenuation out of them.
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05-23-2012, 06:29 PM
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After I switched to AG I was having a problem with too low FG. I started doing a mash out and have had no problem since. Seems like conversion was continuing while first and second runnings were sitting in the BK before actually starting boiling. I was also doing double batch sparge.
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05-23-2012, 06:48 PM
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I'm confused. I thought that a higher temp in the mash and sparge means more sugars from the grain. But this thread seems to indicate that the lower the temp, the more 'fermentable' sugar? What am I missing?
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05-23-2012, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by iambeer
I'm confused. I thought that a higher temp in the mash and sparge means more sugars from the grain. But this thread seems to indicate that the lower the temp, the more 'fermentable' sugar? What am I missing?
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you have it backwards... lower mash temp will produce more fermentable wort than a higher temp mash.
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05-23-2012, 06:55 PM
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you have it backwards... lower mash temp will produce more fermentable wort than a higher temp mash.
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Cool, thanks for the answer.. but why do I read that sparging with hotter water is to rinse sugars from the grain?
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05-23-2012, 07:05 PM
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After I switched to AG I was having a problem with too low FG. I started doing a mash out and have had no problem since. Seems like conversion was continuing while first and second runnings were sitting in the BK before actually starting boiling. I was also doing double batch sparge.
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So what is the solution? Should I start my boil with the first runnings while I'm sparging into a second container and then add the second runnings to the brew kettle once I'm done sparging?
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05-23-2012, 07:06 PM
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Cool, thanks for the answer.. but why do I read that sparging with hotter water is to rinse sugars from the grain?
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typically during the sparge you are just "rinsing", the conversion is done during the mash (with lower temps).
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05-24-2012, 01:21 PM
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Cool, thanks for the answer.. but why do I read that sparging with hotter water is to rinse sugars from the grain?
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This is correct. Whether the water needs to be hot or not is debated. Probably the biggest advantage of a hot sparge is that hot liquids simply flow faster. The sugars are already dissolved so, as far as that aspect is concerned , tempeature make no difference. The sparge is simply moving the sugars away from the spent grain. Cold water will also "wash" the sugars off the spent grain.
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05-24-2012, 01:34 PM
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So what is the solution? Should I start my boil with the first runnings while I'm sparging into a second container and then add the second runnings to the brew kettle once I'm done sparging?
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I do a mash out first (I tend to fly sparge), and I do start the first runnings on the heat as the sparge finishes. This holds the fermentability profile of the wort, if that makes sense.
But you don't have to use a second container, unless you are gravity draining and the kettle is too high- you just drain your runnings into the brewpot.
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05-24-2012, 01:53 PM
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This is correct. Whether the water needs to be hot or not is debated. Probably the biggest advantage of a hot sparge is that hot liquids simply flow faster. The sugars are already dissolved so, as far as that aspect is concerned , tempeature make no difference. The sparge is simply moving the sugars away from the spent grain. Cold water will also "wash" the sugars off the spent grain.
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Thanks. This is starting to make a lot more sense now.
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