Happy HolidaySs Giveaway - Winners Re-Re-Re-Re-Drawn - 24 hours to Claim!

Get your HBT Growlers, Shirts and Membership before the Rush!


Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Beginners Beer Brewing Forum > Fusel alcohol???
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 10-19-2007, 12:38 AM   #1
PAbrewer
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 32
Default Fusel alcohol???

I brewed my second batch. A double IPA from Northern Brewer. Suprisingly my first batch came out fantastic!! I am not so pleased with the second brew. I would like to know what went wrong so i can avoid mistakes in the future. It has a ridiciulously strong, almost rubbing alcohol taste to it. There is some hop flavor, but i believe the only flavor i am getting is from the addition of the finishing hops 2 weeks before bottling.
I kind of suspected something was going wrong when my primary did not stop for about 2 weeks, maybe more. It was very slow bubbling right from the start and stayed at that rate right through to the end. I then racked it to a secondary and let it sit there for about 8 weeks. Some of the bottles i have drank seemed not as bad, but others were bad enough where i did not care to finish them. It's drinkable, but that's about it. Is contamination a possibilty? I was not very pleased with the Wyeast liquid pack either. Too much prep time. The first batch i brewed was an Imperial stout, and i used a dry yeast pack with no started, and it worked fine. I just brewed a Heffewiezen last week and everything seemed to go smoothly. It's sitting in the secondary on a can of Peach puree right now. We'll see how that turns out in a week or two. I don't want to have another batch like the last.... $45.00 down the drain! I have heard that IPA's are a bit tougher to get to turn out good. Any thoughts?? I definitely think something went wrong somewhere.

thanks

__________________
PAbrewer is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-19-2007, 12:53 AM   #2
Iordz
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 959
Liked 3 Times on 2 Posts

Default

Here are some questions:
1)At what temperature did you ferment?
2)Which yeast strain did you use?
3)Did you aerate heavily and make a big starter?
It seems that you didn't use a starter, if so this is probably the culprit. IIPAs take a long time to mature and mellow out, maybe you should let the bottles sit for another 4 weeks, then try one.

__________________
Iordz is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-19-2007, 02:53 PM   #3
david_42
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
david_42's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Willamina & Oak Grove, Oregon, USA
Posts: 25,662
Liked 139 Times on 132 Posts

Default

A double IPA needs more aging than most beers. Give it two months.

__________________

Remember one unassailable statistic, as explained by the late, great George Carlin: "Just think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider!"

"I would like to die on Mars, just not on impact." Elon Musk

david_42 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-21-2007, 01:18 AM   #4
PAbrewer
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 32
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iordz
Here are some questions:
1)At what temperature did you ferment?
2)Which yeast strain did you use?
3)Did you aerate heavily and make a big starter?
It seems that you didn't use a starter, if so this is probably the culprit. IIPAs take a long time to mature and mellow out, maybe you should let the bottles sit for another 4 weeks, then try one.
My temperature was around 69-70 degrees. I did use a starter. It was Wyeast smack-pack. I might not have had a big enough starter, it was the first time i used that particular yeast.
I did have it in the secondary for about 8-10 weeks. It's been in the bottles for maybe a month or so.
It's strange though... some bottles seem ok, and others seem like they have a really strong alcohol aftertaste.
Oh well, i am not too sure i am going to be quick to try another IPA real soon. I prefer stouts anyhow.
__________________
PAbrewer is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-06-2012, 12:12 AM   #5
GunnyB
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 231
Liked 19 Times on 14 Posts

Default

What kit was it, and do you recall the Original Gravity?

The smack pack by itself does not constitute a starter. A starter consists of a quantity of malt extract, to which the yeast is introduced before going into the wort. Most smack packs can be directly pitched into worts of 1.060 or less which is why I asked. Greater than that generally requires a starter.

__________________
GunnyB is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-06-2012, 12:15 AM   #6
Yooper
Ale's What Cures You!
HBT_ADMIN.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Yooper's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Upper Michigan
Posts: 62,867
Liked 4939 Times on 3578 Posts
Likes Given: 995

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GunnyB View Post
What kit was it, and do you recall the Original Gravity?

The smack pack by itself does not constitute a starter. A starter consists of a quantity of malt extract, to which the yeast is introduced before going into the wort. Most smack packs can be directly pitched into worts of 1.060 or less which is why I asked. Greater than that generally requires a starter.
Since it's been more than 5 years since this thread was created, I'm pretty sure that
a. the beer is long gone
b. the OP doesn't remember which kit and which OG
c. He did use a starter (as indicated by him above)

We really appreciate great advice (which you gave). It just might a little late for this thread.
__________________
Broken Leg Brewery
Giving beer a leg to stand on since 2006

Find me on facebook: Lorena Evans
But I'm pretty boring so don't expect much!
https://www.facebook.com/lorena.t.evans
Yooper is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-06-2012, 03:07 AM   #7
likwidbliss
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Hamlin, NY
Posts: 451
Liked 3 Times on 3 Posts
Likes Given: 2

Default

Too funny.

__________________

_______________________

spence

likwidbliss is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-06-2012, 01:04 PM   #8
GunnyB
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 231
Liked 19 Times on 14 Posts

Default

I apologize for not noticing the date

__________________
GunnyB is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply



Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Solvent/Fusel Alcohol Flavor Using Homegrown Yeast althalos Brew Science 10 12-18-2013 10:54 PM
Tripel with hot fusel alcohol flavor NicePelos Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 7 04-30-2009 12:57 AM
Possible Causes of Fusel Alcohols? trn Extract Brewing 14 04-03-2009 02:05 PM
Fusel Alcohols nothreat General Beer Discussion 3 12-13-2008 03:11 AM
Fusel Alcohol Machine?? GIusedtoBe General Techniques 2 06-21-2008 09:25 PM



Newest Threads

LATEST SPONSOR DEALS