New Giveaway - Wort Monster Conical Fermeneter!

Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Beginners Beer Brewing Forum > Funky taste and smell / odor in brews? Thought it might be infection…have waited !




Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-11-2010, 07:42 PM   #1
sillyburt
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Oakland County, MI
Posts: 144
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts

Default Funky taste and smell / odor in brews? Thought it might be infection…have waited !

Well I brewed 2 batches (amber ale and weizenbier BB kits-extract) and they both had a distinct taste and smell to them. I couldn’t quite pinpoint it at first. It was on the sides of the tongue in the back. The smell was kinda sour. I was thinking I might have had an infection. After being patient and waiting (the bottles have been carbed for well over a month) the taste and smell didn’t go away.

Then it finally hit me after having a Sam Adams Boston Lager at a restaurant one day. It was the exact smell and the taste….well was less in the SA but was there.

Is this normal? I’ve brewed 3 more batches (all extract from NB –Honey weizen, kolsch and cream ale) and have yet to taste them fully carbed.

Am I worried about nothing and this is what they’re supposed to smell like?

Is it just because my BMC taste buds and smeller haven’t been accustomed to this? I mean afterall drinking beers out of a can doesn’t really give you a chance to actually SMELL the beer

is this the/a difference between an ale and a lager?



__________________
sillyburt is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-11-2010, 08:05 PM   #2
robtotten
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: louisville, kentucky
Posts: 619
Liked 4 Times on 4 Posts
Likes Given: 9

Default

What did it smell like? Can you describe it?



__________________
robtotten is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-11-2010, 08:19 PM   #3
ReverseApacheMaster
Registered User
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Keller, Texas
Posts: 4,887
Liked 227 Times on 191 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sillyburt View Post
Well I brewed 2 batches (amber ale and weizenbier BB kits-extract) and they both had a distinct taste and smell to them. I couldn’t quite pinpoint it at first. It was on the sides of the tongue in the back. The smell was kinda sour. I was thinking I might have had an infection. After being patient and waiting (the bottles have been carbed for well over a month) the taste and smell didn’t go away.

Then it finally hit me after having a Sam Adams Boston Lager at a restaurant one day. It was the exact smell and the taste….well was less in the SA but was there.

Is this normal? I’ve brewed 3 more batches (all extract from NB –Honey weizen, kolsch and cream ale) and have yet to taste them fully carbed.

Am I worried about nothing and this is what they’re supposed to smell like?

Is it just because my BMC taste buds and smeller haven’t been accustomed to this? I mean afterall drinking beers out of a can doesn’t really give you a chance to actually SMELL the beer

is this the/a difference between an ale and a lager?
It's hard to say without knowing exactly what the smell was like (other than beer).

I hope that your question is, my beer doesn't smell like BMC, it smells good. Is this right?

The different between an ale and a lager is primarily the type of yeast used -- ale yeast or lager yeast -- but there are some additional processes involved in lagering to produce a lager.
__________________
ReverseApacheMaster is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-11-2010, 08:28 PM   #4
binaryc0de
Torrence Brewing
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
binaryc0de's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Conway, AR
Posts: 218
Liked 5 Times on 5 Posts

Default

If your brewing from no-boil extract kits then this is probably the problem. Lots of those kits like Mr. Beer have a distinct taste/aroma. Usually the problem is old extract or a quality issue with the extract. SA doesn't brew with extract so if that is the taste your tasting then it's not the extract twang.

__________________
binaryc0de is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-11-2010, 08:31 PM   #5
LVBen
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 1,345
Liked 18 Times on 18 Posts
Likes Given: 52

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sillyburt View Post
Is it just because my BMC taste buds and smeller haven’t been accustomed to this? I mean afterall drinking beers out of a can doesn’t really give you a chance to actually SMELL the beer

is this the/a difference between an ale and a lager?
That taste/smell is probably the hops. Sam Adams claims to use way more hops in their (Boston) Lager than "the other guys" (BMC). I call beers with this flavor "bitter" instead of "sour". Bitter = hops. Sour = vinegar, spoiled milk, etc. Yes, your taste buds need some practice. You should make an effort to try a wider variety of beers. Try buying single bottles of different kinds of microbrewery beers instead of cases of BMC. This will help you refine your taste buds. You may soon find that you like the bitterness of the hops when it is well-balanced with other tastes.
__________________
LVBen is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-11-2010, 08:42 PM   #6
sillyburt
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Oakland County, MI
Posts: 144
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts

Default

it smelled sour. other people have said same thing (again BMC or non-drinkers). it tated kinda....well biting, perhaps sharp.

the heffeweizen I got at the store (which is why I made the weizen bier) did not taste at all like the one I made. I mean not even remotely close. the one at the store tasted really smooth, maybe subtle.

I don't think I really boiled these first batches well. I think of this form the comment that I could have used no-boil extracts...there were not. BUT I kinda really simmered these instead (being my first batches).

the last batch I did was the honey weizen and that tated (on bottling day) really grat. in fact I think it's my bext so far.

could this tate be coming from not boiling Vigorously enough?

I know it's hard to describe in text and my limited BMC pallate doesn't help

__________________
sillyburt is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-12-2010, 01:56 PM   #7
sillyburt
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Oakland County, MI
Posts: 144
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts

Default

does anyone think the lack of vigorous boil could cause this?

or I guess a better way to ask the question is, what is the result of a lacking vigorous boil?

__________________
sillyburt is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-12-2010, 02:30 PM   #8
kaiser423
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Posts: 487
Liked 4 Times on 4 Posts
Likes Given: 1

Default

In general, lack of a vigorous boil will leave some DMS (corn/buttery) precursors in the wort. You may also not drive off some of the other volatiles. But with extract, this is typically not a problem since the DMS precursors, etc have already been boiled off.

Using the words "bite" and "sharp" makes me think of hops. Are you sure that maybe you didn't get a bit more hop utilization than expected? Go pick up an IPA; maybe you just aren't used to the hop bite. Did you boil longer than the amount listed in the instructions? Boiling longer will increase hop utilization, leading to more bite. Don't boil longer to make up for lack of a vigorous boil.


I would say to try a batch with filtered water. I had an odd, hard to pinpoint off flavor in some of my brews, which I could slightly taste in some commercial brews. When I went to 100% filtered water, it went away. My last nut brown, I had a 5 gallon batch, and accidentally used ~1/4 gallon of unfiltered water and could still slightly taste the issue, so make sure that all of the water is filtered, even the rinsing water.



__________________

Last edited by kaiser423; 02-12-2010 at 02:33 PM.
kaiser423 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply


Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Two batches, same funky taste/smell pendragon Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 21 10-31-2009 11:50 PM
Funky Smell spriggan486 Cider Forum 2 10-07-2009 04:38 PM
Funky over ripe smell/taste garf6819 Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 15 05-26-2009 08:37 PM
Wild brews supposed to smell a bit funky? moger777 Lambic & Wild Brewing 7 05-02-2009 01:52 AM
Funky smell tagz Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 3 01-31-2008 01:58 AM



Newest Threads