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Old 07-05-2010, 07:05 PM   #1
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I'm sick of siphons.

I have the blow start kind for carboys, and I have a thief style pump one with a clip to attach to a carboy/bucket.

The blow start works the best IMO, but risks contamination.

The thief style almost ALWAYS ends up dipping too far into the trub for my liking and sucking up nastiness.

My last batch (about the 15th now) I ended up disturbing the trub a TON and I am willing to bet I will have some very cloudy beer. Dang it.

Anyone have a better way?

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Old 07-05-2010, 07:12 PM   #2
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I get frustrated with the auto-siphon whennracking frmm the brew pot to the fermenter. No matter how careful I am it get clogged, rather quickly, with hops and is a real pain to clean. I end up pouring through a sanitized screen type strainer. On my next batch I am skipping the auto-siphon completely. Most the more experienced brewers on this forum suggest not worry too much about what goes from kettle to fermenter.

For racking to the bottling bucket the auto-siphon works fine.

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Old 07-05-2010, 07:24 PM   #3
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If you don't want to hold your autosiphon you could just get a clip holder to keep it above the trube. Or double rack. From carboy to another carboy or bucket and then let that sit a few hours and then siphon again to your bottleing bucket.

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I like the T siphon on talked about on this site. works perfect every time.

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Install a spigot about 2in from the botton on your carboy or bucket. If you use glass carboy, can't think of anything to help.
I use the better-bottle carboy and you can easily install a spigot. You open a hole and glue the nut to the outside of the carboy with epoxy. See photo below
http://www.flickr.com/photos/3296225...7616828991366/

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I'm sick of siphons.

I have the blow start kind for carboys, and I have a thief style pump one with a clip to attach to a carboy/bucket.

The blow start works the best IMO, but risks contamination.

Anyone have a better way?
I agree. All you need to add is one of these: http://morebeer.com/view_product/167...anitary_Filter and no more contamination risk.

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What's wrong with holding the auto siphon for 3-5 minutes? Yeah, if you just let it sit at the bottom you're going to suck up a lot of trub, but it requires very little time/effort to hold it in place just above it. Or just get a big bag clip or something to hold it for you.

I don't know. Maybe it's just me, but when it comes time to rack a beer I just use one of those plastic clips that hold bags of chips closed to keep it above the trub or else I make sure I have a fresh pint of homebrew poured and within arm's reach while I stand there and hold the siphon for a few minutes. No clogging, no cloudy beer, and no fancy equipment required.

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If you use an auto siphon, place it on the bottom of your fermenter and do not disturb it you will not get a bunch of trub. If you are, then you are doing it wrong.

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What's wrong with holding the auto siphon for 3-5 minutes? Yeah, if you just let it sit at the bottom you're going to suck up a lot of trub, but it requires very little time/effort to hold it in place just above it. Or just get a big bag clip or something to hold it for you.

I don't know. Maybe it's just me, but when it comes time to rack a beer I just use one of those plastic clips that hold bags of chips closed to keep it above the trub or else I make sure I have a fresh pint of homebrew poured and within arm's reach while I stand there and hold the siphon for a few minutes. No clogging, no cloudy beer, and no fancy equipment required.
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I use a paper clip wound around the racking cane and make a hook to catch bottle neck, the angle holds it from slipping. The chip bag clip is how I will do it next time (in about fifteen minutes) Three 5 gallon moves. Wish I had remembered to get the bigger hose, I heard that speeds up the process a whole lot.
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What's wrong with holding the auto siphon for 3-5 minutes?
It's a PITA. I got me a half-incher that cuts racking time down to maybe 90 seconds.
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