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Old 08-03-2012, 12:48 PM   #1
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This is my first APA and when I tasted the first one there was no hop flavor at all even though I used 4oz Cascade. The first day of fermentation the temp almost hit 80 degrees. I immediately moved to a cooler spot and the remaining 11 days it was at 70 degrees. Could the one day of higher fermentation temp do this to the beer? Thanks for the help.

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Old 08-03-2012, 12:53 PM   #2
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Are you referring to tasting out of the primary? If so,it's still green. No worries then.
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Old 08-03-2012, 12:56 PM   #3
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4 oz of hops when?

4 oz at 90 minutes would be bitter, but no flavor.

Yes 80F would produce fruit.

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The short answer is yes. The long answer is more nuanced. It depends on the yeast and your ingredients. Also, unless you've tasted a lot of beers at various stages, it may be hard to discern how the final product will taste. You can have a beer that tastes ok when bottling that turns out to be a good beer and you could have a great beer that is delicious when bottling. Some flavors will mellow over time, and tasting temperature can be a big factor.

With that said, fermentation temperature control is important in beer quality.

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Old 08-03-2012, 01:35 PM   #5
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The hop schedule was 2 oz for 60 mins, 1 oz for 15 and another oz for 5 mins. It is done with fermentation. It wasn't as fruity when I tasted during the fermentation. I am going to brew the same recipe but control the temperature better and see the results.

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Some ale yeasts produce fruity esters. Moreso when ferment temps go up,lesser when kept below 70F.
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I brewed a similar APA with 3 oz cascade in the boil for bittering/flavoring, and 1 oz dry hop for the last 7 days. It has plenty of hop flavor/aroma.
The 2oz bittering hops in your schedule is pretty high IBU for an APA, closer to an IPA.

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This is my first APA and when I tasted the first one there was no hop flavor at all even though I used 4oz Cascade. The first day of fermentation the temp almost hit 80 degrees. I immediately moved to a cooler spot and the remaining 11 days it was at 70 degrees. Could the one day of higher fermentation temp do this to the beer? Thanks for the help.
80 degrees is way too hot. 70 degrees ambient is also too hot. You're likely to see fruity esters from a hot fermentation. I usually ferment 1056 (not sure what strain you're using) around 64 degrees ambient. APAs are supposed to be clean/neutral - so any fruity esters you're seeing are considered a flaw. It might still taste great though. Just something to think about for future brews.
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80 degrees is way too hot. 70 degrees ambient is also too hot. You're likely to see fruity esters from a hot fermentation. I usually ferment 1056 (not sure what strain you're using) around 64 degrees ambient. APAs are supposed to be clean/neutral - so any fruity esters you're seeing are considered a flaw. It might still taste great though. Just something to think about for future brews.
While I agree with the first few sentences, the bolded one is not true. APAs can have up to moderate fruity esters in both aroma and flavor.
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Old 08-03-2012, 07:40 PM   #10
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I did use the 1056 yeast strain. I liked the recipe because of the amount of hops in the beer. It doesn't taste bad just lots of the fruit aroma and flavor. I was also reading that it could lead to alcohol that was not as pleasant to drink, not in flavor but headache the next day.

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