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Old 12-05-2013, 06:30 PM   #11
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morebeer is known for doing a very course crush. once i asked them to double crush and they got a little defensive. i'm able to get 65-70% with their crush if i double batch sparge.



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Old 12-05-2013, 08:58 PM   #12
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tl;dr: my efficiency is at 54% according to beersmith, I have no idea why!

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Did you read your mash efficiency or brewhouse efficiency in Beersmith? They are two different things and brewhouse efficiency will always be lower or the same as mash efficiency.

If I can remember correctly, mash efficiency isn't displayed in the "Mash" tab in Beersmith. That value is Total Efficiency, which is Brewhouse Efficiency. Your Mash Efficiency should be in the "Fermentation" tab in Beersmith.


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Old 12-05-2013, 09:30 PM   #13
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morebeer is known for doing a very course crush. once i asked them to double crush and they got a little defensive. i'm able to get 65-70% with their crush if i double batch sparge.
Didn't know this. i verified my last brew I had used some from morebeer, and I think they either gave me pre-crushed or I messed up and intentionally ordered pre crushed. This was not the entire grist however, and I believe I may have re-crushed along with my other grains.. maybe not.

Anyways, maybe the OP can post a pic of the crush if he has any leftover grains??

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Old 12-06-2013, 07:54 PM   #14
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Here are some pictures of the grains that I purchased, my temperature at the end of my 90 minute mash was read at 152. I only stirred for five minutes at the beginning of the mash and then maybe another five minutes with the sparge water, I did not see anything that looked like dough balls.
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Here are some pictures of the grains that I purchased, my temperature at the end of my 90 minute mash was read at 152. I only stirred for five minutes at the beginning of the mash and then maybe another five minutes with the sparge water, I did not see anything that looked like dough balls. Thanks for all the replies!
From those pics, it doesn't look like they were milled at all!

I take it that was the grain used and is no longer available for a close up shot?

My bag of malt from MB was milled better than this, but again, hard to say for sure without a close up. For some reason they fulfilled part of my order with milled, and I milled malt in separate bags. Didn't see the word milled on the label, though it clearly had been.

I used a JSP original malt mill and it gives a better crush than what those photos show.

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Looking at that picture, I think it is pretty safe to assume grain crush was your problem. If I brew this weekend I will post a picture of my crush as well as my roller gap on my grain mill to give you an idea of the difference in appearance.

Especially if you are going to be ordering online, a grain mill is probably a good investment for you. Gives you way more control over the process allowing you to produce more consistent results. Next best option is buying from the LHBS where you can crush your own. Even if they won't let you adjust the gap on their mill, at the very least you can double crush if it is to coarse.



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