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Old 06-05-2013, 03:07 PM   #21
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Well as an update to those interested, I took a gravity reading of the first wort hopped double IPA a couple of days ago, it was where I wanted it so I'm now dry hopping it, and I tasted the beer warm and cold. First wort hopping definitely changed the bitterness from my previous brews. Instead of a big bitter punch to the face immediately, the first wort hopped bitterness was definitely there immediately, but not as strong, and instead it kept its intensity for a longer time before tapering off, and left a good lingering bitterness that lasted a good amount of time. I really liked the result, and I would have to say I may FWH in the future for all of my hoppy beers.

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Old 06-05-2013, 03:43 PM   #22
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1. Truth is, the IPA style is an innately bitter and unbalanced style.

2. They [top notch commercial IPAS that do not first hop] are rather smooth on the palate, pungent with aroma, and complex with flavor.

3.Homebrewer forums like to promote the FWH idea for IPA's because they can't produce anything near what they can buy commercially.
I'm mildly confused. Isn't #2 more or less a description of "balanced".

And why do you think it is that homebrewers *can't* produce a decent IPA?

It seems #1 argues for the point "most beer drinkers don't actually like IPAs (too bitter) but think they do and first hopping makes something that isn't really an IPA (not as bitter)"

But #3 seems to argue for the point "most home brewers can't make for a good IPA so they do first hopping as the best way to imitate it".
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:45 PM   #23
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I'm mildly confused. Isn't #2 more or less a description of "balanced".
No, because those beers are still more bitter than anything else. That is what makes an IPA an IPA. They are more bitter than milds, sours, stouts, pales, browns, etc. If commercial breweries can make fairly smooth, yet innately bitter IPAs without employing the FWH technique, than why can't you?

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And why do you think it is that homebrewers *can't* produce a decent IPA?
In my experience, most homebrewers don't produce amazing IPAs. Some do... I do... But in the grand scheme of things, I wouldn't pay for a case of homebrewed IPA selected at random. The IPA style is regularly regarded as one of the easier styles to brew. Sure, anyone can brew a bitter beer that is capable of giving someone a bitter face. But the truth is that an amazing IPA, full of potent aroma, extreme drinkability, great body/head/color/carbonation, and pleasing flavor, yet still innately bitter in character is quite difficult to fully master.
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Old 06-12-2013, 10:49 PM   #24
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Can we quit arguing about wether or not someone should first wort hop?... This thread wasn't about convincing people to change their ways, it was about learning what first wort hopping does for a beer. If a person likes to first wort hop their beer, let them, it's their preference. If there's anything I've learned about craft beer and brewing, it's breaking the norms, trying new things, and above all, making something you enjoy. Now if you all can't stop fighting don't post again.

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