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Old 12-27-2011, 08:55 PM   #1
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Default First Recipe - Please Review

I have been brewing 9 months and recently moved to all grain. i'm brewing this week and trying my hand at creating a recipe with beer smith. I want to start simple, so i created an American IPA using only hops from the Northwest. This is my first time creating a brew from scratch and would really appreciate some feedback.

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Style: American IPA
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (30.0)

Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 5.70 gal
Post Boil Volume: 5.20 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 5.00 gal
Bottling Volume: 4.75 gal
Estimated OG: 1.067 SG
Estimated Color: 14.4 SRM
Estimated IBU: 96.2 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 72.0 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
8 lbs Pale Malt (6 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 2 59.3 %
3 lbs 8.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 3 25.9 %
2 lbs Victory Malt (25.0 SRM) Grain 4 14.8 %
2.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 5 34.9 IBUs
1.50 oz Willamette [5.50 %] - Boil 45.0 min Hop 6 26.4 IBUs
1.00 oz Chinook [13.00 %] - Boil 30.0 min Hop 7 34.9 IBUs
2.0 pkg American Ale (Wyeast Labs #1056) [124.21 Yeast 8 -


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Light Body, Batch Sparge
Total Grain Weight: 13 lbs 8.0 oz
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Name Description Step Temperatur Step Time
Mash In Add 16.88 qt of water at 159.1 F 148.0 F 75 min

Sparge: Batch sparge with 2 steps (1.25gal, 3.85gal) of 168.0 F water

Notes:
Dry Hop on 2 oz of cascade for 10-14 Days

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Old 12-27-2011, 09:10 PM   #2
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There are a few issues I see...

The first is the amount of crystal malt. Back that up to a pound or less and replace the rest with base malt and you're in business. I don't have a ton of experience with Victory malt either, but it might be a good idea to scale that back to a pound or less too. With this much crystal malt you'll have a ton of residual sugars left after fermentation and a really sweet base beer.

As for the hopping, the varieties look good but consider moving them to later in the boil. You'll want some hops at 60 minutes to get your bitterness in line, but move your other additions to 15 minutes and less to get more flavor and aroma out of them.

As for the mash, 148 is going to produce a dry beer, which is what you want in an IPA. You're really hitting LOW on the temperature range though, I usually opt for 150-152 with an IPA recipe and they tend to dry out just fine (usually 1.010-1.014)


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Old 12-27-2011, 09:20 PM   #3
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Thanks for the feedback! Great suggestions! Please keep them coming everyone and i will update the recipe and and post the updated recipe.

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Old 12-27-2011, 09:34 PM   #4
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I would knock out2- 2.5# of crystal malt, Ive never used that much victory either but would cut it back to 10% although i like some pretty robust toasty ipa's i would try that sometime, 10% is typical according to How to Brew so depending how toasty you like it. I like rogue beer alot and they seem to have a toasty robust taste to them,it must be the kilned malt they use. Dont know if i could get that effect though, but maybe its a dark crystal that does that also.
Ive also overused crystal but not upwards of your recipe but that should be cut to below 2#, but even the ones i overuse crystal they still turned out good.
I like a fuller bodied ipa so i go for 153-4 mash temp.Thats assuming a lot less crystal also. I see you want it light bodied though,if your going to mash as low as you are you may want to give it another 10-20 min mash.
If you want hop flavor you going to want to get some of those in the last 25 or so and for aroma towards the end. I would try those additions you have just to see exactly how the hop profile turns out but 30-45 additions seem frowned upon. I would at least get some of those in towards the end, i dont think it would hurt to do those 30-45 additions, just whatever you do check your ibu's first so you know where your at.
If you do keep your hop schedual, i would dry hop also- if you want aroma. Im thinking about trying no late additions to see how it works.I think it could give a more refined complex bittering.

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+1 to everything smowveil said, plus cut the victory some. Repost your revisions for another look.

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Thanks everyone! Here is the updated Recipe, let me know what you think. I raised the mash temp, adjusted the grain levels and hop schedule, and added the yeast strain i want to use.


Style: American IPA
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (30.0)

Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 5.70 gal
Post Boil Volume: 5.20 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 5.00 gal
Bottling Volume: 4.75 gal
Estimated OG: 1.070 SG
Estimated Color: 8.2 SRM
Estimated IBU: 62.1 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 72.0 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
12 lbs 8.0 oz Pale Malt (6 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 2 89.3 %
1 lbs Victory Malt (25.0 SRM) Grain 3 7.1 %
8.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 4 3.6 %
1.00 oz Chinook [13.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 5 44.3 IBUs
1.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 6 8.5 IBUs
1.00 oz Willamette [5.50 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 7 9.3 IBUs
2.0 pkg American Ale (Wyeast Labs #1056) [124.21 Yeast 8 -
2.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Dry Hop 10.0 Days Hop 9 0.0 IBUs


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Full Body, Batch Sparge
Total Grain Weight: 14 lbs
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Name Description Step Temperatur Step Time
Mash In Add 17.50 qt of water at 168.2 F 156.0 F 45 min

Sparge: Batch sparge with 2 steps (1.15gal, 3.85gal) of 168.0 F water

Yeast: Wyeast #1056 American Ale

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looks great

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second recipe looks much better! IMO, I like to mash around 152-154 for IPAs. 156 is gonna give you a heavier/maltier body. If that's what you're going for you should be good, but if you want it a little lighter and higher in fermentable sugars I'd lower your mash temp a few degrees

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Thanks everyone! I will lower my mash temp to 154 and step for 60 min. I will post back and provide an update on how this brew turns out.

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NIce! But i bet you get a higher OG. Are you getting those precrushed or do you have a crusher? This is just me,i would add more victory and less base malt. But this would give you a good strong simple ipa. Ive noticed cetain malts like pilsner are sweet and ive added crystal to them and have gotten a little sweet, i wonder if you get that from 2 row or not mashing higher?. Ive seen descriptions of some certain base malts described as having some sweetness also. the only strong beers ive made have been partials and have been too sweet,probably because of the malt extract.Looks like you could get a good 7%er,
Personally i would go with 10# 2row 1.5#victory and 1# crystal and do a 70 min boil,making shure you adjust for evaporation.Just a suggestion, but your recipe looks good, i personally with that much malt would try to get a little more bittering. I just bet you get a higher og than that.Its pretty solid though.

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