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Old 01-23-2014, 03:21 PM   #11
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Yea I just purchased a stir plate and a 2L flask and a yeast culturing kit

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Old 01-23-2014, 03:28 PM   #12
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Use this for determining how large of a starter you need. www.yeastcalc.com

You will be surprised how much yeast you actually need for a lager, it's like 3 times more than you need for an ale.

Just to give you an idea. I made a Vienna lager a couple months back and for 5.5 gallons it took 1 yeast vial, and then a 1L starter stepped up to a 2L starter to have enough yeast to pitch. So you probably pitched only 20% as much yeast as ideal with one vial and no starter. Even with proper pitching it takes 24 hours or so to get active fermentation because lager yeast are slow at cool temps.

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Old 01-23-2014, 03:37 PM   #13
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Coastal: I agree that you drastically underpitched, but....
If you are looking for an ale-type vigorous fermentation with lager yeast you'll be disappointed. My "Soxtoberfest' brewed back on November 24 was pitched with 3 qts. yeast slurry from a Vienna lager- in the neighborhood of 400billion cells calculated. Pitched at 48 and fermented at 45-50 until d-rest time. She took about 48 hours to show any burps, and then was a nice steady sedate blurp every couple seconds. Fermented down to FG in about a week and 1/2, then D-Rest and lagering. Bottled 1 week ago, and she was beautiful.
Your underpitching has led to a longer lagtime because the yeast had to build up their numbers, and it might lead to more off-flavors. Definitely should give it a Diacetyl rest to help clean up off-flavors, and then might even consider leaving it on the yeast at a higher temp. for longer than normal(say a week instead of 2-3 days) before racking it for cold lagering.

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Old 01-23-2014, 04:05 PM   #14
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i would strongly recommend immediately adding yeast nutrient, oxygenating the best you can, and bumping the temp to 65. when you see signs of fermentation, lower to 52-54.

what you're doing now very well might give you excessive sulfur in the finished product.

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Old 01-24-2014, 12:11 AM   #15
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I brought it inside my house and gave it a little oxygen and fermaid.... still nothing yet.. lets see what happens

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