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Old 02-07-2011, 09:10 PM   #1
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Hello,

My first post and first brew
So my brew kit came with a choice of a Coopers Ingredient Kit. I chose the Canadian Blonde Ale. I started my brew yesterday thinking I was all ready. I boiled and cooled 3 gallons of water and added to fermenter. I then boiled another 3 gallons of water and added the 3.3 lbs LME and 1lb DME that came with the kit. Cooled and added to fermenter. I screwed up - thought more water would boil off - I have about 5.75 gallons of wort in the fermenter. So I was looking at the instructions and couldn't tell if I was supposed to add one of the dextrose packages. Two packages came with the kit - 8oz of Dextrose and 5 oz of Dextrose (labeled Priming). I read on through and it said the 8oz was used for bottling, so I did not add this in the boil.
It has been about 24 hours now and the airlock is now bubbling. (I pitched the yeast at 68 degrees and think I sanitized everything properly).

Is this going to be too watered down? Was I supposed to add the 8oz dextrose? Should I lightly boil and add to the fermenter? Or add more DME? Or just let it be?

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Old 02-07-2011, 09:19 PM   #2
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basically, not knowing how it would have tasted if it was 5 gallons even means theres nothing to compare it to, it will taste like beer. My first AG brew came out to almost 6 gallons in the fermenter, turned out just fine. As for the dextrose, "priming" usually means bottling sugar, but you said the other package was labeled for bottling so I'm not sure there, 5oz sounds like more reasonable amount for priming. Happy brewing.

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Old 02-07-2011, 09:19 PM   #3
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The 5 ounce would be used for bottling, I'd think. 8 ounces is too much unless it's a bigger batch.

The 8 ounces is presumably for the beer itself. Dextrose doesn't add a ton of flavor and it's not a lot. That being said, your beer is pretty light right now. DME would help more than sugar. If you do add, you'd have to boil and cool first.

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Howdy and welcome to the board!

With the 5.75 gallons it will be just a little watered, but not enough for you to be able to taste. It will be a lighter beer, but not by much. Still will taste like good beer.

In the recipe was there anywhere mentioned added dextrose to the boil?

The packet labeled Priming is, well, priming sugar, which is added at the time for bottling. Did you add the 5oz labeled Priming, or did you add the unlabeled 8oz packet? The unlabeled probably was meant to be added to the boil. This is no problem, if you added the priming sugar, then you will just need to get some priming sugar for when it is bottling time. If you don't have a LHBS nearby and paying shipping for 5oz of corn sugar seems a waste, you can use table (cane) sugar. Look up on the forum about priming sugar amounts or ask on this thread if you need clarification.

And 24 hours for yeast is still early to see activity. It is fine. If you want, shake the carboy a bit if you didn't aerate the wort (poured it in so it would splash and get oxygen in it) when it was added to the carboy. After 48 hours if you see no bubbles and you see no krausen forming (foamy stuff on top of the wort), THEN you can start to be a bit worried. And even then, it may just need time.

I hope that helped. Anything you want clarified, or any other questions?

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Aren't the Cooper's kits designed for 6 gallon's of beer? My first one, the Lager, was for 6 gallons (23 liters). The 5oz Dextrose is for bottling, 8oz would be too much. I'm not familiar with that kit but I'd guess they figured the 8oz would go into the wort. I think you'll be ok without it anyway, just relax


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Aren't the Cooper's kits designed for 6 gallon's of beer? My first one, the Lager, was for 6 gallons (23 liters). The 5oz Dextrose is for bottling, 8oz would be too much. I'm not familiar with that kit but I'd guess they figured the 8oz would go into the wort. I think you'll be ok without it anyway, just relax


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This sounds like a kit that expands upon Cooper's, not an actual Cooper's kit. Those don't have DME, do they?
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Aren't the Cooper's kits designed for 6 gallon's of beer? My first one, the Lager, was for 6 gallons (23 liters). The 5oz Dextrose is for bottling, 8oz would be too much. I'm not familiar with that kit but I'd guess they figured the 8oz would go into the wort. I think you'll be ok without it anyway, just relax


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Yep...23 liters on their kits is correct. The 8oz was supposed to go into the wort, then the rest is for priming. Should be ok in the end though...just not as directed
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This sounds like a kit that expands upon Cooper's, not an actual Cooper's kit. Those don't have DME, do they?
If you buy the kit from coopers and not make your own for the Canadian Blonde you get:

Includes Canadian Blonde Beer Kit (Malt & Yeast), Brew Enhancer 1 and Carbonation Drops
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Hello,
I screwed up - thought more water would boil off - I have about 5.75 gallons of wort in the fermenter. So I was looking at the instructions and couldn't tell if I was supposed to add one of the dextrose packages. Two packages came with the kit - 8oz of Dextrose and 5 oz of Dextrose (labeled Priming). I read on through and it said the 8oz was used for bottling, so I did not add this in the boil.
It has been about 24 hours now and the airlock is now bubbling. (I pitched the yeast at 68 degrees and think I sanitized everything properly).

Is this going to be too watered down? Was I supposed to add the 8oz dextrose? Should I lightly boil and add to the fermenter? Or add more DME? Or just let it be?

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Nah mate, you didn't screw up at all. The Coopers kits are for 23L (= 6 US gal). So you actually made it slightly more concentrated instead of watered down which is totally fine. You could have added the 8oz of dextrose for an extra alcohol kick but absolutely not necessary, completely optional. At this stage, just let it be. Did you get a hydrometer with your kit? Did you measure the OG?
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This sounds like a kit that expands upon Cooper's, not an actual Cooper's kit. Those don't have DME, do they?
He got the full kit:

http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Coope...f=pd_sbs_gro_2

Even if he'd only gotten the HME can all those Cooper's one's that are pre-hopped are all for 6 gallon batches.

*EDIT - by the way I looked it up with Beersmith (software) and it appears that 8oz of Dextrose would only give you an extra 0.39% to your ABV. So you're not even losing a whole half point of alcohol percentage.


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