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Old 09-21-2012, 02:10 AM   #1
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Default First Beer of The Day Tastes like Windex

Not quite home-brewing yet, but working on it. First step I choose was to set up a kegerator.

I have a four tap system that I've been using for parties, but it usually run them through coolers, with kegs on ice for the night. The beer sits in the lines max 12 hours, but I've rinsed all components the next day (tap water only though). I've probably had about 25 1/2 barrels go through the lines.

Anyways, so I decided to get a fridge and use two sets to make a two-tap kegerator. Got it set up, hooked up a Kona 1/4 barrel and DFH 60 minute 1/4 barrel. Took a few days to get the temperature and pressure right (38' & 12 psi for my tastes) - but I got it. But I have to throw away at least one beer everyday I choose to have a drink.

The first and maybe even the second pint has a pronounced Windex finish that is unbearable. Closer to bitter than sour. Like soap. But it is only that beer or two. Once they start flowing everyone's happy. Both beers have the same taste for those first few beers. These are the same components I used for my party kegs, but none ever had this taste.

Any suggestions? I thought it was a temperature differential skunking the first 12" or so of beer from the tap, but I just don't know.

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Old 09-21-2012, 02:35 AM   #3
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just throwing it out there

could it possibly be your glassware?

otherwise I have no idea

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Old 09-21-2012, 02:49 AM   #4
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3/16ID-7/16OD PVC beer hoses, clear

Glassware - Maybe, let me try a fresh glass... nope, tastes fine. FYI, I had to pour out two pints today to drink one, and this taste was in a little rocks glass from the same dishwasher load.

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Old 09-21-2012, 06:01 AM   #5
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I'm not really trusting my math skills at the moment, but 3/16" ID hose at 38' would contain 6.9 oz of beer that is being left in pvc hose. That could be the off taste you are experiencing.

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The lines are only 5' or so... but should I just go ahead and replace the hoses since they are cheap enough?

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That'd be a good place to start. Make sure they're all clean & sanitized as well between kegs.
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I'd recommend getting some good beer line. There is a thread floating around here somewhere about the "best" beer line (without plastic taste).

I forget the name of my line, but it's very common. (It's my memory that is bad). It costs more, but it means never tossing a beer that has been in the lines. It's also a PITA to work with to get on the barbs and stuff.

Someone else will remember the name, I'm sure.

While you're at it, increase the length of the lines too if they need it, so you can serve highly carbed beers without foaming.

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"Beer line tests and a solution to the plastic taste" was the name of the thread, I believe

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Accuflex Bev-Seal. When I switched to it from the standard Bevlex lines, all my off-flavor issues went away! Like Yooper says, it's a bit of a PITA to get the barbs on, but once they're on, they're ON.
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