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Old 11-29-2012, 02:12 PM   #11
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One thing to note is that with a 5 gallon kettle, you are never going to be able to do a full volume boil which effects your hop utilization and sometimes flavor as you are watering down your wort when you go to the fermenter by topping it off to 5 gallons if that is your batch size.

BIAB is an option for some but I find going with a MLT, although maybe slightly more expensive at first is more along the lines of where I want my home brew operation to move. Different strokes for different folks.

My logic was just that if I am going to be mashing anything, why not mash it all. Extracts are expensive.
You don't need a full volume boil to get good hop utilization in a partial boil. The difference is pretty small. Most kits & related recipies are designed for the partial boils most are capable of.
Flavors are the same. The difference is there,but not so much that it makes worlds of difference. It doesn't. So the beer isn't being "watered down",& Many don't necessarilly want to brew big ABV beers all the time.
Yeah,extracts cost $$. But way less in a pm brew,since you're using only about 3lbs of it vs 6 or 7 pounds in an all extract brew. On average,about $25pm vs $35 AE (All Extract). Hey! There's a new term...AE.
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Old 11-29-2012, 02:16 PM   #12
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For holding the mash temperatures for your partial mash you can do a form of BIAB and put the entire pot in your oven. Preheat to your mash temperature then put the pot inside, I usually turn the oven off. Set the timer for your mash and it should keep the temperature close.

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I'm a recent convert to partial mash. I followed one of the threads on here and converted a 5 gal water cooler by replacing the spigot with a ball valve faucet and barbed ends to connect tubing for easy sparging. It was easy and cheap. However I skipped the SS braid part and just use 5 gal paint strainer bags for my grains. Now someone correct me if I'm wrong but the bag accomplishes the same purpose as the braid, ie, allowing the grains to soak / mash and then draining the water to spare.

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Old 11-29-2012, 02:28 PM   #14
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Right now I'm going to be a partial-volume, simply because I don't have a burner yet that will allow me to boil 5 gallons all at once (still using an electric stovetop)..
I use my electric stove now... the boil takes a little longer but it still works. I guess it all comes down to whether or not your kettle can fit on the stove.

I have pretty much done partial volume boils up until now, just to save myself some time but I had started reading and hearing that the bigger the boil the better the beer. I guess in smaller batches it is a rather negligible difference.

And as I understand it, yes, the grain bags act like a false bottom or a SS braid. Pretty much just keeping your grain out of your valve.
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AS I understand it,BIAB is a way to mash grains when you don't have a converted cooler or MLT with valves,false bottoms,etc. Not used together. If you have the cooler set up,you don't need the bag.
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if you do BIAB you don't need all that stuff... it doesn't have the 'cool factor' of building the whole setup, but it works well, and it's a lot easier, and cheaper, and the cleanup is a breeze

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Yup! You nailed it dad-dad-daddio. Clean up would be a breeze if I wasn't such a cheap a$$ & reuse the grain sacks.
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AS I understand it,BIAB is a way to mash grains when you don't have a converted cooler or MLT with valves,false bottoms,etc. Not used together. If you have the cooler set up,you don't need the bag.
actually, i do the BIAB in a cooler, but i just don't have all the valves changed on the cooler.

the cooler keeps the water at EXACTLY the temp i want, where doing the BIAB in the kettle the temp was harder to manage.
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Yup! You nailed it dad-dad-daddio. Clean up would be a breeze if I wasn't such a cheap a$$ & reuse the grain sacks.
^^^^ i'm also a cheap a$$. i was the grain sacks in soap and water, and rinse the crap out of them, and let them soak, and then hang them up on the line in the basement for the next use... then i just boil them before i put all the grains in.

see, i'm cheap and lazy (except for show i call it being efficient).
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After making it to AG, I have actually settled back to PM.

I use ONLY pale or extra pale DME and add 2 lbs of pale 2 row and whatever specialty grains to make it what I want.

I rinse the grains back and forth between 2 large pots and 2 large dish drainer/strainers from wal-mart.

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