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timduncan200021 01-15-2013 03:23 AM

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So my first brew is conditioning in bottles right now, it is a mr beer american classic light HME with an added lb of light DME. It was definitely an adventure and not because of any technical brewing mistakes but because of kids who put ice cubes and toilet paper inside the lbk during the cold crash two days prior to bottling. Needless to say I was able to recover and the beer is clear as water conditioning in bottles now.

SWMBO gave the go ahead on moving up to a 5 gallon setup and after doing TONS of reading I think I am going to start doing BIAB. The sticky here on it is amazing and very thorough and easy to understand, thank you. I went on the website of my LHBS and basically picked out all the equipment that I believe that I will need to start a pipeline for myself. I do have a 6.5 gallon aluminum pot already that I plan on using and it "should" be big enough for the BIAB. I didn't include a burner because I will try my stove top first. I'm trying to start out as simple as possible and then add for there as the need arises. So if you don't mind taking a look and letting me know where I might be missing a necessity please let me know. I am super excited to be moving up to 5gallon BIAB batches.

Leadgolem 01-15-2013 03:32 AM

I've never really looked at the mr beer kits. You do have a hydrometer right? You are also going to need a big pot to do the boil in.

timduncan200021 01-15-2013 03:37 AM

Bought a hydrometer with first batch and have a 6.5 gallon aluminum pot for boil/mashing

Leadgolem 01-15-2013 03:45 AM

Other then your actual fermentables and flavor additions, you should be pretty good. A wort chiller would be a nice addition, the extra volume of the 5 gallon batch is going to make it more difficult to cool the liquid to pitching temps. Something to get a good accurate temp reading of your wort would be good.

brewguyver 01-15-2013 03:53 AM

- 1 or 2 more hydrometers (they break) ;)
- PBW or another good brew cleaner (you can use other cleaners, even dish soap and bleach, but you run the risk of not cleaning them well enough and impacting your beer
- Foaming acid based sanitizer (San Star is the best - mix with distilled water for best results)
- Wort chiller - you can't dilute out a BIAB batch, and its a pain to cool a full batch without one.

The 6.5 gallon pot might be a little small for the mash and a 5 gallon boil. BIAB uses the full volume of water plus what is absorbed by your grain, so there is some risk of overflow. You may also risk boil-over if you're not careful.

Before you run out and get a new pot, wort chiller, etc. you might want to try a smaller BIAB batch. A 3 gallon would work fine in the setup you described, and you can see whether your stove is up to the task (without having an extra long brew day).

timduncan200021 01-15-2013 03:58 AM

Yeah the wort chiller is on the wish list, and I do hard a birthday coming up in not to long so maybe then. Although I am tempted to just DIY and rig one up from some of the instructions online. I've always enjoyed building things if I can it gives a greater satisfaction.

chumpsteak 01-15-2013 04:11 AM

How do you plan to control fermentation temps? You need a fermometer (stick on thermometer) at a minimum and some way to keep the beer at a constant, under 70 degrees, liquid temp while fermenting. Keep in mind that the beer temp on a vigorous fermentation can easily reach 10 degrees higher than ambient. Research swamp coolers on here and maybe add a plastic bin to your list. Or since you like DIY then I highly recommend building a fermentation chamber. Everything else is a waste if your fermentation temps run away and your beer turns into paint thinner.

501irishred 01-15-2013 04:15 AM


Originally Posted by timduncan200021 (Post 4786471)
Yeah the wort chiller is on the wish list, and I do hard a birthday coming up in not to long so maybe then. Although I am tempted to just DIY and rig one up from some of the instructions online. I've always enjoyed building things if I can it gives a greater satisfaction.

+1 on DIY giving greater satisfaction, however if you don't already have a some tubing laying around you may very well be better off (financially) to go ahead and buy one off the shelf.... Worth pricing out though.

timduncan200021 01-15-2013 04:23 AM

I am probably wrong but I'm just going off of the partial mash/BIAB sticky http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f39/easy...ng-pics-75231/
In his method he only uses two 5 gallon pots one of them with 2-3 gallons water for mashing about (1.25 qts per lb of grain) and another with 2-3 gallons of sparge water and then combines them for the hop boil and then tops off with bottles water when needed. I am probably misunderstanding somewhere along the lines so I'm going to research it a bit more. I did buy the starsan just need to add cleaner to the list. I also bought a couple fermometers last brew and I have a floating thermometer on its way. With my first brew I was able to keep it inside the house and it stays around 70-75 degrees in here so I planned on placing the bucket in a cooler with water and necessary water bottles to keep it around 60-65 to start. Although I am going to be making a golden monkey clone (a Belgian tripel by victory) and plan to start off cool and then let it rise to room temp to bring out some of the esters from the Belgian yeast.

BigFloyd 01-15-2013 04:48 AM

I'm going to make a somewhat radical suggestion.

I'm sort of near to where you are in this whole process. I've done a few small (Mr. Beer-size) batches. I've got a couple of them fermenting right now. One is a Mr. Beer HME can with added DME, steeped grains and two hop additions. The other (likely much better) batch is made from Briess LME, steeped grains and 2 hop additions. I'm going to do at least one more small batch before making the move to 5-gallon, mini-mash, and then hopefully BIAB several batches later.

Before jumping off into larger batch BAIB, may I suggest that you first spend a bit of time (and some $$) addressing important things like fermentation temperature control and batch integrity (keeping it away from small kiddies)? If you don't already have an extra fridge or freezer, hunt for one on CL. They can often be had for cheap. Build yourself a temp control box using an STC-1000 and rig up one of the DIY paint can heaters. For less than $45 plus the fridge/freezer, you can have precise temp control and in a place where your brew will be more secure.

Do a few more small (2.5 gal will fit in your LBK) batches with un-hopped extract (LME or DME) as your base. Your results will likely be a whole lot tastier than just using the Mr. Beer ingredients by themselves. Get comfortable with steeping grains and doing hop boils. Get familiar with rehydrating dry yeast, cooling wort and getting pitch temps adjusted.

For me, each successive brew session has gotten more smooth, I can anticipate most things better, and I've become much more comfortable with the process. It's been a fun learning experience and I look forward to learning more with each batch.

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