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Old 08-30-2010, 06:15 PM   #581
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Just as an update, I'm buying a few more of the same bag. My last bag I turned inside out (seam out) in order to help with cleanup, but I'm gonna try using the bag seam in and see if it lasts. I'll post later if this works.
I always keep a 2nd bag handy in case one breaks. If so, just pour your kettle into another one with the bag in it, and it will filter it. That, or you could double bag bigger batches, but that might resist more water flow, I can't imagine by much though
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Old 09-11-2010, 09:59 AM   #582
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hey this doesn't look any harder than the partial mash except more grain, no LME.. cool!

Since all grain kits are cheap, I think I'm going to do an american wheat (4lbs pale wheat, 4lbs 2-row) and use the turkey fryer.

Heat up 2.5 gallon mash on fryer to 168*, add grains, set aside and wrap in towel for an hour. Heat up sparge in boil kettle on burner to 170*. Sparge for 10. combine wort. top up to 6 gallons pre-boil volume and boil away.

Sound good?

I figured why not since it doesn't seem too hard and the ingredients will cost me about 20 bucks..

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Old 09-11-2010, 03:26 PM   #583
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Use this calculator to determine your water temperature:

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Mash in at ~150°F.

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And use enough sparge water so that you don't have to top off before boil.

As far as that goes, your mash ratio is a little thicker than what I normally use. The only time I mashed that thick I really took a hit on the efficiency. Personally, with 8 pounds of grain and trying to hit 6 gals preboil, I would mash with 3 gallons and sparge with the same or maybe a little more, depending on how much you want to squeeze a hot grain bag.

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I would mash with 3 gallons, also (assuming you have a big enough pot.) That gives you my usual 1.5qt/lb.

But I'm still against squeezing the grain bag. I know, I know, nothing bad has come of it yet but it just seems unnecessary.

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And use enough sparge water so that you don't have to top off before boil.

As far as that goes, your mash ratio is a little thicker than what I normally use. The only time I mashed that thick I really took a hit on the efficiency. Personally, with 8 pounds of grain and trying to hit 6 gals preboil, I would mash with 3 gallons and sparge with the same or maybe a little more, depending on how much you want to squeeze a hot grain bag.
You say my mash is too thick at 2.5 then say to use 3? Lol

I understand what you're saying, I was using a 1.25 ratio. If I used 3 I would have to still top off due to grain absorption, but not as much.

You think the mash would fit in a 4 gallon pot? Maybe I will have to use 2.5...
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lol...sick as in "dense", as in "more solids than water"

You would have to use a 5 gallon pot with more water.

Check out the "Can I Mash It?" Calculator here:

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Leave yourself at least 3/4 gallon of space to work with, and that's pushin' it...I usually leave a gallon to stir and take up the bag.

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lol...sick as in "dense", as in "more solids than water"

You would have to use a 5 gallon pot with more water.

Check out the "Can I Mash It?" Calculator here:

http://www.rackers.org/calcs.shtml

Leave yourself at least 3/4 gallon of space to work with, and that's pushin' it...I usually leave a gallon to stir and take up the bag.
see thats what I get for trying to be a smartass.

So using a three gallon mash in a four gallon pot should suffice.. close, but that would cut down on head space to retain heat.

that calc says the mash will only us 1.82 gallons of space and thats with the 1.5 ratio.

I'm out of my element here but like I said, the ingredients for the american wheat are like 20 bucks so if it doesn't turn out that good.. no biggie, I still gained some experience.

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whoops that was only 4 pounds of grain... it's 3.64... wuh-oh..

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I do have another turkey fryer kettle though... it's not new so I'll have to clean the hell out of it and build the oxide layer first.

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