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Old 10-15-2008, 03:25 PM   #141
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Here is the original cream ale recipe:

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BJCP Style and Style Guidelines
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06-A Light Hyrbid Beer, Cream Ale

Min OG: 1.042 Max OG: 1.055
Min IBU: 15 Max IBU: 20
Min Clr: 25 Max Clr: 5 Color in SRM, Lovibond

Recipe Specifics
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Batch Size (Gal): 5.50 Wort Size (Gal): 5.50
Total Grain (Lbs): 9.50
Anticipated OG: 1.046 Plato: 11.52
Anticipated SRM: 3.5
Anticipated IBU: 16.0
Brewhouse Efficiency: 73 %
Wort Boil Time: 60 Minutes


Grain/Extract/Sugar

% Amount Name Origin Potential SRM
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47.4 4.50 lbs. Pale Malt(2-row) America 1.036 2
21.1 2.00 lbs. Pilsener Germany 1.038 2
10.5 1.00 lbs. Flaked Corn (Maize) America 1.040 1
10.5 1.00 lbs. Flaked Soft White Wheat America 1.034 2
5.3 0.50 lbs. Munich Malt Germany 1.038 8
5.3 0.50 lbs. Vienna Malt Germany 1.037 3

Potential represented as SG per pound per gallon.


Hops

Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
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0.50 oz. Fuggle Pellet 4.75 10.6 60 min.
0.25 oz. Saazer Pellet 3.60 4.0 60 min.
0.50 oz. Saazer Pellet 3.60 1.3 5 min.


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White Labs WLP080 Cream Ale Yeast Blend
this is an all-grain recipe. if you want to do a partial mash, replace the 2-row with 3 lbs of light DME.
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Old 10-15-2008, 03:40 PM   #142
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Thanks for the quick reply! Looking forward to this one.

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Old 10-19-2008, 06:08 AM   #143
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Just wondering if I got this right...

In your efficiency rating...
If you were to sparge your grains a little longer, couldn't you hit a better OG ?

I'm new so I'm looking for advice.

I got a cooler with some grain bags like you.
I get to temp and drop into cooler.
Then go for sparge as I drain the cooler. And I can take some time doing that.
As you understand this, does this system seem like I could achieve a closer to accurate OG...then say in this method you are using?

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Old 10-19-2008, 10:01 AM   #144
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yes, depending on many factors, you should get better efficiency if you use more water. you'll just have to boil down more. today, i brewed a weizenbock, and sparge to over 7 gallons. i boiled for a while before i added my hops for my 60 min boil.

i don't know about getting a more accurate OG. method of mashing/sparging is pretty reliant on the brewer...your efficiency is based on not method you are using but how you use it

i used my keggle tonight, i have a cooler (which a friend used tonight to make a pumpkin ale) and i also use the 1 bag, 2 pot method for PM and all-grain. i usually get better efficiency with the keg or cooler than i do with the pots. my best ever (a fluke) was the cooler, when i managed 84% efficiency.

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Old 10-21-2008, 09:17 PM   #145
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Deathbrewer, thanks for the great writeup! I've used your methods so far with good results. Planning my next 2 batches for this weekend.

Your cream ale looks delicious, I think I'm gonna try that. My LHBS is out of Fuggles, but this site says I can replace with Tettnang which they do have (3.4%). I'd have to adjust the quantities for both, their Saaz is listed at 2.8%. What do you think?

They're also don't carry that particular yeast, and are short on many others... I'll probably go with good old reliable S-05.

I had bought a (fairly expensive) grain bag from my LHBS which served only once... it broke during the 30 mins seep.. I guess I proded it too much. I bought myself a nice strainer (like this one). I'll let the grains roam free in the seeping pot, and place the strainer on top of the other pour on top of it. The mesh has larger holes than the grain bag but I don't think it'll be too much of an issue.

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Old 10-21-2008, 11:22 PM   #146
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the cream ale would be fantastic with that tettnang and saaz. i prefer the WLP080, as it gives the lager-like qualities i desire in my cream ale, but i'm sure the s-05 will make a great beer, too.

why are all these bags breaking? something is up with that, you guys need a new supplier.

i used to use a colander just like you are talking about (mine was plastic, much cheaper.) it will work, but allow some grains and dust to go through. it still makes a great beer, i just try to make mine as free of particles as possible. if you get another bag, that will work great for draining after your mash and sparge, that way you don't have to hold the bag up.

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Ya, I realize that it'll let smaller particles thru but I figured (perhaps incorrectly) that any leftover sediments would eventually find its way into the trub.

Maybe I'll try getting another bag or filter, and use it just to line the bottom of the strainer. That should do a decent job I think.

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i think that's the way to go. i've been meaning to buy a nice strainer like that one myself, just to make draining easier.

the less residue at every stage, the cleaner your beer will come out. when i brew larger batches, i use a filter after mashing AND after boiling.

don't get me wrong, tho. i made some kick-ass beer with that crappy plastic colander

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Old 10-24-2008, 03:09 AM   #149
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The alpha on our pellet hops is 3.2% Should we use all of them? I was also thinking of doing half for 60 min and half for the last 15. Sound good? Thanks! Brewday Friday or Saturday!!

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looks perfect to me:

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BJCP Style and Style Guidelines
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15-B German Wheat and Rye Beer, Dunkelweizen

Min OG: 1.044 Max OG: 1.056
Min IBU: 10 Max IBU: 18
Min Clr: 14 Max Clr: 23 Color in SRM, Lovibond

Recipe Specifics
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Batch Size (Gal): 5.00 Wort Size (Gal): 5.00
Total Grain (Lbs): 8.25
Anticipated OG: 1.056 Plato: 13.75
Anticipated SRM: 14.4
Anticipated IBU: 15.3
Brewhouse Efficiency: 70 %
Wort Boil Time: 60 Minutes


Grain/Extract/Sugar

% Amount Name Origin Potential SRM
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3.0 0.25 lbs. Chocolate Malt America 1.029 350
24.2 2.00 lbs. Munich Malt Germany 1.037 8
36.4 3.00 lbs. White Wheat Belgium 1.040 3
36.4 3.00 lbs. Briess DME- Weizen America 1.046 8

Potential represented as SG per pound per gallon.


Hops

Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
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1.00 oz. Saazer Pellet 3.20 15.3 60 min.


Yeast
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White Labs WLP300 Hefeweizen Ale
i wouldn't use any flavor hops, myself. just stick with the bittering for a wonderful dunkelweizen. save those hops for your next brew.

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