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Old 09-12-2008, 02:40 PM   #101
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This is a VERY noob question, but when you refer to extract, you are talking about dry extract? or Liquid? In the kits that I have they have a dry one, and a liquid one that comes in a can. Thanks!

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Old 09-12-2008, 03:09 PM   #102
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In this recipe i'm referrring to dry malt extract. i usually use dry malt extract (DME)

liquid is the same stuff, you just have to use a little more since it has less sugars per pound. you could use 4 lbs of Wheat LME in that recipe.

some extract in the cans are pre-hopped. if so, you'll have to take that into account when making your recipe.

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Old 09-12-2008, 03:13 PM   #103
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Awesome, thanks! Think I am going to make that recipe next brew day! Have to let you know how it goes.

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Old 09-13-2008, 06:08 PM   #104
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You say 3 water changes over 30 minutes gets you down to pitching temperature.

I've had my brewpot submerged for the past 30 minutes, with one change, and I'm still hovering around 90-100 degrees.

At what point does one say, eff this, I'm buying a wort chiller?

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The only reason i don't use a wort chiller in my apartment is because it is carpeted

You're pretty close to temp, tho. what you could do is get some big chunks of ice to keep in the freezer, then add that to the water the last time you change it out.

moving the pot around in the water helps, too. when the pot just sits there, it creates a blanket of heat around it and there is not much temp transfer, so it takes longer to cool. the more you move the wort and the water around it, the faster it will cool.

if you're topping off, you could even add sanitized water or ice to get down to temp. (boiled then cooled water, that is...then put in a sanitized container and freeze)

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Old 09-14-2008, 09:58 PM   #106
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DB thanks for this awesome thread. It will definitely be a thread i come back to as I am in the process of moving over to PM or possibly AG. This will def be a good help in that transition.

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Old 09-17-2008, 01:02 AM   #107
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A quick question. Are these the correct ingredients? I have only purchased two kits so far, and am not familiar with grains. Thanks Death (or whoever provides feedback ).


Chocolate Malt
- *Grain Combining Option Please do not combine these grains
- Amount 0 lb.
- Fractional Amount 4 oz.
- Grain Milling Option Milled Grain
$1.10
Munich Malt
- *Grain Combining Option Please do not combine these grains
- Amount 2 lbs
- Fractional Amount None
- Grain Milling Option Milled Grain
$4.00
White Wheat
- *Grain Combining Option Please do not combine these grains
- Amount 3 lbs
- Fractional Amount None
- Grain Milling Option Milled Grain
$5.10
Saaz Pellet Hops (US) (1 oz)
$3.99
Wheat Dried Malt Extract (DME)
- Amount 3 lbs
$11.97
White Labs Hefeweizen Ale WLP300
- BrewVint Yeast Fuel No Thanks
- Ice Pack None
$6.49
Priming Sugar (4.5oz)
$0.79
Sub-Total: $33.44

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Old 09-17-2008, 01:12 AM   #108
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Followed this method today DB. had a bit of a hard time regulating temps but once i get this down it'll be a breeze. Thanks DB

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bear, it's much easier once you figure out your system. i know, for instance, that i experience a drop of about 6°F on a normal day when i add my grains to my preheated water. This is true for my keg mash tun, but is different in my stockpot and likewise in my cooler.

i try not to regulate too much. once i have it where i want, i let it sit for the mash. then it doesn't matter greatly how much it drops. besides, the higher you fill your stockpot, the less heat loss you will experience. so, the more grain you use the better it works!

i recently used this method with 10 lbs of grain. i think i could do 12 with a thick mash (and a bigger pot for the sparge.) i might give that a shot next week.

Mirage, that will certainly do the trick! there are always variations depending on where you buy it. i've tried that exact recipe with red wheat and white wheat, british chocolate and pale chocolate and american chocolate, belgian munich and german munich, wlp300 and wlp380, etc. it's always a winner

what is the alpha acid content of those hops? that's the only thing that may be off...if they are a bit higher AA%, you may wish to use only 0.75 oz, but it will probably be fine either way.

oh, and you may wish to get an ice pack for your yeast if your shipping will take a few days. those yeasties are as important as the rest of the ingredients.

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Gotcha! I don't know the AA on the hops, but they only come in 1oz packages from AHS unless I am mistaken, so I was going to measure out .75 oz and save the rest. Thanks for the info on the ice pack, should I also opt for the nutrient? Where do you buy your grains from? AHS didn't have all the different kinds of chocolate.

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