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Old 01-27-2009, 06:20 PM   #1
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I brewed a bit well over a decade ago and recently picked up the hobby again. I'm on my 4th batch now and I'm wondering if there is an easier method to extract the juices from the grain? Currently I've tried the cheesecloth bags and tried just straining it...Both are a pain in the butt, but I will stick with Cheesecloths as it's definetely easier, thing is you need to press a spoon up against the bag to get the juices out and well, the bag is freakin' HOT! Plus, the pot tips when you do that, or you can't get the bag completely out of the water while doing thisetc etc etc...problems galore. I also noticed last night when doing a batch that when I waited for the grain bag to be cool enough to handle I was able to squeeze a LOT of thick liquid out of it which I think would add to the flavor and quality of the beer, I'd like to be able to use as much of that liquid as possible.

I'm wondering, hasn't someone come up with a grain PRESS? Idea being once your grains are done you can put the bag or grains only into a machine to "press" the residual juices out of the grain and into a pot, or some other type of container...nice and neat and if heavy duty enough would be able to make use of every ounce of liquid improving the flavor of the brew.

Is there such a machine? I can't find one...I want this not JUST for grains but also for hops as well when doing those with cheesecloth, just seems there's got to be something to do this with?

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Old 01-27-2009, 06:25 PM   #2
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It sounds like you are making extract/steeping grain brews. To extract more efficiency out of your malts and not have to deal with grain bags, you might want to take a look at Partial Mashing.

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Old 01-27-2009, 06:36 PM   #3
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Grains should not be squeezed. You'll extract tannins if you do it excessively.

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Old 01-27-2009, 07:00 PM   #4
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Grains should not be squeezed. You'll extract tannins if you do it excessively.
What he said.
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Yeah, you don't wanna be doing that to your grains. I can understand the sentiment though. It feels like waste if you ain't getting it ALL out. really though, you don't want to do it. There is a lot of bitter nasties in that thar grain.

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Old 01-27-2009, 07:29 PM   #6
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Instead of placing the grains in a bag…let them steep “free-style”.

Then when your ready, just pour into another container or the dedicated boil pot through a large 5-gallon paint strainer. If the batch is too large to manhandle, try scooping a saucepot full at a time.

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Old 01-27-2009, 08:43 PM   #7
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Hi, I just made my first all grain mash last Saturday and discovered the same pain in the back from straining. Fortunatly I had boiled water the day before and refridgerated it for cooling my wort. I wasn't satisfied that I was getting all the good stuff out of the mash so I poured the sterilized but cooled water over the strainer to wash the wort out of the mash and into the ferminter. I had the same idea of a press but no clue on where to get one. Maybe a wine press could be adapted.
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Hi, I just made my first all grain mash last Saturday and discovered the same pain in the back from straining. Fortunatly I had boiled water the day before and refridgerated it for cooling my wort. I wasn't satisfied that I was getting all the good stuff out of the mash so I poured the sterilized but cooled water over the strainer to wash the wort out of the mash and into the ferminter. I had the same idea of a press but no clue on where to get one. Maybe a wine press could be adapted.
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wait...you poured cold water over the mash into the fermenter? do you mean you poured it over the mash into the boil kettle? if so, you would be sparging and would get much better results if the water is closer to 170 degrees. Or re you saying you boiled the mash, grain and all?
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Baru, buddy....did you read any of the thread. Squeezing the grains isn't something you want to be doing. And I echo the comment above...

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+1 million to not squeezing the grain bag. Let the sweet filtering husks do their work.

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