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Old 02-07-2014, 09:12 PM   #1
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Default Dry stout recipe. Take a look please?

Here is the recipe for my proposed partial mash, dry stout:

5 gallon batch

Fermentables
Maris Otter LME-6lb
Flaked barley- 4oz (mashed)
Crisp Maris Otter- 8oz (mashed)


Specialty Grains
Crisp-roasted barley 8oz
Caramel malt 80L (8oz)
(steeped for the last 30 minutes of the mash time, I'll be mashing in muslin bags in the boil pot)

Hops
Golding .5 oz (60 minute)
Target 1oz (60 minutes)

Yeast- Wyeast- Irish ale

Does this sound alright? Do I need more grain for the mash? I'm only mashing for the flaked barley. Brewtarget says that the beer will be way too hoppy (48.1 IBU) but it seems to have a weird reading for both the hops.

I'd appreciate a reply, you guys are a gold mine here.

Also, if you'd do anything differently, let me know!

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Old 02-07-2014, 09:31 PM   #2
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You should mash all the grains together, that way the enzymes from the 2-row are working on any of the sugars from the steeping-type grains as well. For that reason, I would up the 2-row to a pound or two. Also, I don't think you'll get much out of only 4oz of flaked barley, I'd up that to a pound as well. To get the OG you're looking for, you'll need to reduce the LME with these adjustments.

For the bitterness, you'll need to adjust the AA% in brewtarget to make sure the IBU estimate is accurate. You can do this on brewday if you don't have the hops you need now. Any reason to use two bittering hops? You won't get any flavor out of them.

Also, one bit of semantics. Typically, when brewers talk about beer being hoppy, we're describing the flavor or aroma, so a beer can be bitter without being hoppy. 60m, or bittering hops, add very little flavor and no aroma.

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So maybe just go with a the Kent Golding for the hops? Or should I replace them with Williamette (I've seen that used in this style pretty frequently)?

If I use all the LME and end up with a higher abv, I know that won't be style specific, but will it also drastically change the beers character?

And thanks for the Semantics lesson. I'm still new to the homebrewing scene.

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You can go with one or both. Probably better to buy more than you need in case the hops you buy have a lot less alpha acid than brewtarget predicts. If the ABV is too high, then yea, maybe it won't be to style, but just adding some more base malt is not going to drastically change the character of the beer, no. I'll just be stronger.

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If your gravity is far off, you can always add water (and in the boil, hops to proportion). It drops your specialty grain ratios a little in a beer like this but it's sometimes better than a 6-7% dry stout when you don't want one.

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Great! Thanks guys!

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