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Old 05-21-2009, 10:02 PM   #1
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Should I use the oven or dishwasher to sanitize my bottles? If the oven, how long and how hot? Or should I just use star san?

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Old 05-21-2009, 10:03 PM   #2
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Or should I just use star san?
There's a reason that 9 out of 10 people around here use either Star San or Iodophor.

Well, there's more than one reason. Dozens, even.
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I use the dishwaser (no soap!). Run it when I leave for work, then it's ready when I get home.

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Being an environmentally conscious brewer, I'd say go with Star-San. You don't need to waste all that energy from the stove or dishwasher. Or, you could say f*ck it, and be lazy. I don't care.

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i actually put a tiny amount of star san, (like 1tsp) in the dishwasher so it doesn't foam up too much, and then make sure its on the hot dry. my dishwasher calls it the sanitize dry, seems to work great. haven't had any issues so far. still have a bucket of the iodopor handy for everything else or last minute stuff.

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i actually put a tiny amount of star san, (like 1tsp) in the dishwasher so it doesn't foam up too much, and then make sure its on the hot dry. my dishwasher calls it the sanitize dry, seems to work great. haven't had any issues so far. still have a bucket of the iodopor handy for everything else or last minute stuff.
dishwashers don't get much (if any) water inside the bottle. the opening's too narrow.

the reason I don't like heat sanitizing bottles is that frequent high/low temp changes cause weakening of the glass.

and star-san is just so damn cheap & effective.
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From How to Brew.

Oven Sterilization:
338°F (170°C) 60 minutes
320°F (160°C) 120 minutes
302°F (150°C) 150 minutes
284°F (140°C) 180 minutes
250°F (121°C) 12 hours (Overnight)

Be sure to put the bottles in there to heat up and cool down with the oven. Cover the openings with sterile foil and you can store them sterile after they are done.

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On Revvy's recommendation I got one of these babys.

Avvinatore Vinator for Bottles, 1-Count Box: Amazon.com: Grocery

Sanitizing bottles is fast and easy, then store then upside down in a clean dishwasher until you start bottling.

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I know I'm in the minority here, but I use the oven.

Up until now, I didn't hear that the heat cycling weakens the glass, but that's something I need to look into.

My reason for not using the dishwasher is because my dishwasher doesn't have a steam setting. The hot water alone is not enough to sanitize the bottles. That would probably be my choice if it did have a steam setting.

I don't use star-san mainly because I don't want to deal with trying to store the bottles in a sanitized place where they will dry. Maybe SWMBO will get me a bottling tree for my b-day.

How do other people who use star-san (or other no rinse sanitizer) handle letting the bottles dry in a sanitized place?

The things I like about the oven are:
1. It sterilizes, not just sanitizes, so it helps me relax a bit more (I know we don't NEED to sterilize).
2. You can do it days before and the bottles stay sterile, assuming you cap them with foil before baking.
3. It seems like the least amount of effort.

Those are just my thoughts. I know there's many ways to do things and to each his own.

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Sanitizing bottles is fast and easy, then store then upside down in a clean dishwasher until you start bottling.
Wouldn't you want to store them in a sanitized dishwasher? Or am I just being too unrelaxed?
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