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Old 08-30-2011, 04:27 PM   #11
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FWIW though, i really suggest making a starter in that range. It will prevent off flavors, help attenuation, and accelerate the aging process.

It'll still make beer without the starter but maybe not as good as it could be or as quickly

What range is a basic cut off for doing a starter? Generally as a rule just do them anyway, even if on a lower OG Recipe. I like the idea of a higher Yeast count. Cannot hurt right?
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Old 08-31-2011, 06:12 PM   #12
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I always do a starter with liquid yeast. I always hydrate dry yeast. This is true except for the first few batches I did and 1 vial of yeast 'can' handle 1.06 without any real problems.

RDWHAHB and do a starter next time if you can

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Old 08-31-2011, 06:28 PM   #13
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I'm still kind of a newbie when it comes to yeast, but also consider how much of your wort is fermentable. I brewed the AHS Pumpkin Ale with some lactose and maltodextrin. This brought the OG up to 1.063 from the recipe's 1.052, but the 11 points were mostly unfermentable.

I'm not sure if non-fermentables stresses yeast or not, but my wort really only had 52 points of potential fermentables, and it finished in a few days.

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Give it a few days. 1.060 is a decently sized beer but nothing I would say you couldn't have success without a starter.

If after a few days you're not seeing the airlock bubbling and the SG has not changed then you know the yeast just isn't doing what it should and you need to prep a starter and re-pitch.

As stated, under-pitching can cause off-flavors but as long as it eventually gets going the end product will still be beer.

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at this point i'd be more concerned about getting the temp down

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Old 08-31-2011, 10:51 PM   #16
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Temps are fine at 68 at the moment. My concern was not that it would not kick off, but if it would have enough to ferment to my target FG by not having done the starter. It finally did kick off yesterday and is going strong. I will see in a couple weeks what I end up with. Thanks for the reply's is always appreciated.

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