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Old 01-31-2014, 10:22 PM   #1
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First a confession...I followed a youtube video. I didn t come here first.
Activated Wyeast 1056 at 11 pm Wednesday . Began starter at 6 am. The bag was well inflated. I combined 2 Cups of water with 2/3 cup of LME and boiled for 15 min. cooled to 72 degrees, added yeast. stirred vigorously It is in a beaker sealed with sanitized foil. got home from work at 4pm there was a layer of goop at bottom of beaker I stirred it all up and continued to stir intermittently all evening. Awoke at 5 am stirred it again and went to work. just arrived home to see a layer of goop but I dont see any bubbling. Never saw any krazen. didnt take a gravity reading. right now i have moved it into the fridge to put it to sleep I am brewing dead ringer on sunday morning. Is my starter alive? how do I tell? I now know I should have used a bigger volume . It is what it is.

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Old 01-31-2014, 10:44 PM   #2
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What kind of goop? yeast goop??? the yeast cells would settle to the bottom when they're done fermenting, which wouldn't take long with 2C.

EDIT: OH! 2C water with 2/3C of LME? What was the gravity of that? Seems like too much DME.

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1.090?! Next time to go one of the online yeast calculators and figure out what you need for a 1.040 wort. If you have the room then volume is your friend. 2-3 liters is a good sized starter for the most part.

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yes, I will do that. But is my starter usable?

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If everything was sanitized then repeat the process and make yourself a proper size 1.040 gravity starter.
That yeast is not dead, just pooped out from trying to chew through a 1.090 starter.

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so, decant this starter and reuse the yeast left in bottom of beaker combine w 1 liter of wort?

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what will happen if I pitch this poorly made starter into my wort as originally planned?

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I would decant and pitch into a fresh 2l starter

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At best you'll have a large lag time while the yeast build up their cell count. At worst you stressed the yeast in your 1.090 'starter' and the beer will have significant off flavors in addition to a long lag time.
Once you get into high gravity solutions the strain put on the yeast causes them to mutate much too rapidly and they are essentially single use.

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Not to take this thread off track but I've never used LME for starters. DME, a 2L flask, and a scale. Makes life very easy.

I've been doing some figuring and am I off the mark when I say 1/3 cup (which is 2.6 fluid oz) is a good amount of LME to use per quart of water for about a 138-ish starter?

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