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Old 09-14-2013, 07:25 PM   #1
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Hi All,

Today is my first day of brewing! I just finished the boil and now its currently in the bath tub cooling down. I have a few questions that I have read through out the forum that wasn't very clear in my brewing instructions.

1) What is the temperature that the wort have to be before I transfer to the carboy?

2) Do I have to include water in the carboy before I transfer the wort. My brewing instructions doesn't say anything about putting water in the carboy, but have read in the forum people putting water in.

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Old 09-14-2013, 07:31 PM   #2
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I would transfer no higher than 70f so you can pitch the yeast. Do you have fermentation temp control? If yes, you could transfer higher and put in you chamber to cool to pitching temp.

Assuming you did an extract. Did you do a full or partial boil? If you did a full boil no need to add water. If you did a partial, add water to make 5 gallons.

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Old 09-14-2013, 07:41 PM   #3
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Yes, I did an extract and did a full boil. I dont have a fermentation temp control.

How long does it take to get the tem down to 70f. I went through all my ice and now just have cold water running.

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Old 09-14-2013, 07:46 PM   #4
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Like pjfallat said, 70F or under for pitching yeast is pretty standard. I personally like to get to 64F or less before pitching. So, if you're in a bathtub and you hit 70F no problem then keep it cooling down to the mid- to lower-60s. If, on the other hand, you have a hard time just getting to 70F then go with it.

You only need top-up water if you did a partial boil (i.e. boiled only part of the full batch). If this is the case and you're using cold top-up water then you can factor that into your cooling time. For instance, if you boiled half the batch and the other half is refrigerated spring water then you know that you spring water is about 40F which means you could stop cooling your wort at 80F, and when you mix the two together you'll get 60F.

Edit: I just saw your reply above this one. Kind of blows my suggestions out of the water

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Old 09-14-2013, 07:50 PM   #5
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It can takes many hours to get to a good pitching temp.

For instance, I brewed a batch last and have an immersion chiller. My tap water runs about 70F right now. It took about 20-30 minutes to get the wort to 75F at which point I put it in my fermenter. I then put the fermenter in a swamp cooler in my basement with about 60F water and a fan, and it took about 4 more hours to drop to 64F.

As long as you keep your wort covered and sanitary then you can leave it for a long while (12-24 hours even) while it cools. Sanitation is key!

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Old 09-14-2013, 08:06 PM   #6
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Thanks St. Pug! Just took my first temp reading. Its at 80f. So hopefully it drops to 70f soon. So it looks like it might take me awhile to get my wort to 64f.

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Old 09-14-2013, 08:12 PM   #7
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Some people these days do a "no chilling" method, which revolves around letting the beer drop by leaving it overnight basically. As long as nothing can get in there, it'll be fine.

Since you said you did a full-boil, there is no reason to add any water.

I'd do as stpub mentioned (which is the same as my own method), get it as cool as you can, then transfer it to your fermenter. If you can put that into a new ice bath, do that to help it keep dropping. If you're room temp is under 70F, just put the airlock in place and leave it overnight, and in the morning it should be around room temp and you'll be able to pitch. With no temp. control though, you'll need to watch out, you're beer will start warming up once you pitch your yeast.

For future batches, if you're doing full-boils, I'd strongly recommend and immersion chiller, it'll work a lot better than an ice bath... 5 gallons is a lot of volume to cool down with an ice bath.

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you need your wort at 70 degrees (ish) to pitch the wort...

if you have some cold water in the carboy (which has been boiled and cooled) then it will also help bring the temp down before you pitch the wort

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try this, since the wort is already in the bathtub.

go to the store and get some bags of ice.

put about half the ice around your pot, and add some water to spread the cooling all the way around the pot.

give the wort a really good stir with a santized spoon, and it will cool faster

when the ice is melted, and the water gets warm, repeat the process again.

you will be surprised how fast it gets cool (but a a buck a bag of ice it may be pricey)

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Also, moving the wort around in the pot and moving the cold water around the pot helps a ton.

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