The Great Bottle Opener Giveaway

Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Beginners Beer Brewing Forum > Copper wort chiller gunk?

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 08-12-2012, 12:55 AM   #1
itsdave
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 8
Default Copper wort chiller gunk?

So I'm still pretty new to this, this was my 4th batch, and I had bought myself a brand new wort chiller since I have found the ice bath method really annoying. We had read the instructions and it said to clean it thoroughly with a mild detergent. We did this, twice in fact, but after adding the chiller to the boil with 20 minutes to go (per instructions) the small amounts of foam started to take on a strange color and texture. Small grey-green lumps, thick and sticky, and slightly viscous. Without much of a choice and a pack of yeast swollen and ready to go, I finished up the brew.

So did I just brew a 5 gallons of copper gunk poison? It was a new recipe, and had a 60 min boil of cascade hops, was it just oils being released from the hops after 40/45 minutes of boil? Any advice is really appreciated.

__________________
itsdave is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 08-12-2012, 01:01 AM   #2
Stauffbier
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
 
Stauffbier's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: El Paso, TX
Posts: 5,054
Liked 984 Times on 610 Posts
Likes Given: 2659

Default

It might just be hop/break material. It's good to soak new copper chillers in vinegar before your first use. This will remove the oxides that will otherwise end up in your brew. If you wanted to go the cautious route you could soak it in vinegar then boil it in water for about 15 minutes. After that you just rinse it before and after every use. I like to clean mine with vinegar after about 5-10 brews, but many brewers will tell you this isn't necessary if you rinse it well after each use...

__________________
Bier war sein letztes wort dann trugen ihn die Englein fort...

Stauffbier is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 08-12-2012, 01:02 AM   #3
mike20793
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Cookeville, TN
Posts: 206
Liked 8 Times on 8 Posts
Likes Given: 19

Default

You're fine, don't worry. I don't even really clean my chiller (mainly just rinse right after use). The boil kills everything bad. I think the green foam was just hop material that settled to the bottom of the kettle and the chiller mixed it up. Cheers RDWHAHB.

__________________
mike20793 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 08-12-2012, 02:13 AM   #4
itsdave
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 8
Default

I wasn't to worried, but when I took my chiller out of the wort after it had cooled and saw how shiny the copper was now, I started to get pretty paranoid.

__________________
itsdave is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 08-12-2012, 02:16 AM   #5
Stauffbier
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
 
Stauffbier's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: El Paso, TX
Posts: 5,054
Liked 984 Times on 610 Posts
Likes Given: 2659

Default

Check this out dave..
http://www.howtobrew.com/appendices/appendixB.html

__________________
Bier war sein letztes wort dann trugen ihn die Englein fort...

Stauffbier is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 08-12-2012, 03:02 AM   #6
itsdave
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 8
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stauffbier
...facepalm.

I have this guys book, I should have read it before hand, feeling dumb.

So I guess I'm just gonna have to see what happens, it's already bubbling in the fermenter after a few hours, so hopefully it will ferment okay. But if it's full of oxides, it's probably gonna taste a little on the side of awful.

But is it dangerous? Like could it make me sick? A mediocre batch is on thing, but an undrinkable batch is a real bummer.
__________________
itsdave is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 08-12-2012, 03:09 AM   #7
Stauffbier
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
 
Stauffbier's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: El Paso, TX
Posts: 5,054
Liked 984 Times on 610 Posts
Likes Given: 2659

Default

It's not dangerous. More than likely it will be fine, since you washed it well with detergent.

__________________
Bier war sein letztes wort dann trugen ihn die Englein fort...

Stauffbier is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 08-12-2012, 05:06 AM   #8
KeyWestBrewing
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 6 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Key West, Florida
Posts: 5,016
Liked 430 Times on 348 Posts
Likes Given: 525

Default

That's just cold break, no biggy. Just soak your chiller in starsan while you do your boil. You can sanitize everything else while the chiller is cooling your wort.

__________________

EAC - 5/2/14

Growing Hops in Key West, FL....

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f92/casc...y-west-333466/

Primary : Red, Wheat, and Blue
Primary : Mango Cream Ale
Primary : Soon To Be Filled
On Tap : Atocha Amber, Muddy Waters Bourbon Chocolate Stout 2.0

*Member: The HBT Sweaty Fat Guys Cigar club

KeyWestBrewing is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 08-12-2012, 08:37 AM   #9
itsdave
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 8
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KeyWestBrewing
That's just cold break, no biggy. Just soak your chiller in starsan while you do your boil. You can sanitize everything else while the chiller is cooling your wort.
How can it be cold break if the grey green metallic smelling lumps in the foam formed during the boil?

After reading about the chillers in "how to brew" I decide to give the copper a soaked in starsan to clean it up, and I was getting a lot of greasy film coming off it, I'm pretty sure this stuff got in the wort.

I know what to do now, but this batch looks like 5 gallons of a lesson learned at this moment.
__________________
itsdave is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 08-12-2012, 02:20 PM   #10
KeyWestBrewing
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 6 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Key West, Florida
Posts: 5,016
Liked 430 Times on 348 Posts
Likes Given: 525

Default

I misread, I thought you had the chiller running when you put it in the kettle.

__________________

EAC - 5/2/14

Growing Hops in Key West, FL....

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f92/casc...y-west-333466/

Primary : Red, Wheat, and Blue
Primary : Mango Cream Ale
Primary : Soon To Be Filled
On Tap : Atocha Amber, Muddy Waters Bourbon Chocolate Stout 2.0

*Member: The HBT Sweaty Fat Guys Cigar club

KeyWestBrewing is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply


Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools