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Old 01-24-2008, 10:41 PM   #1
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Alright. I want to start by saying without coming across this website I may never have tried my first brew. That being said, I have and English Brown Ale in my primary. It's been there since Sun. I've read more conflicting info on the "When to Secondary" Sticky than my head can handle. So let me just state what I think are facts, and maybe someone can show me where I'm wrong.
1. Should never rack to secondary until fermentation is completely done.
2. Only way to tell when fermentation is done is with hydrometer readings.
3. Secondary is not necessary. Just helps with clarity and chill haze.
4. Leaving in primary will not pick up "off" flavors from trub.
5. The longer I leave it in secondary the better the taste and clarity will be.
6. 1-2-3 method is guideline but not necessarily "right."
7. Bottles should condition for at least 3 weeks. Longer the better.
8. One could leave just in primary for say 3 weeks then bottle and be just as good

So basically all my questions are about secondary.
Also, I've had my primary fermenting at between 67F and 72 the whole time.
Came home from work today and it was at 78F (only for about 4 hours)
Will this 4 hrs of being out of proper range affect the flavor?

Anyone who could answer any or all these questions would make my day. I do not want to screw up my first brew. I'll be sitting here enjoying my Sammy Smith Taddy Porter (I don't have any homebrew yet, but with some help it will be about 5 weeks. Thanks everyone.

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Old 01-24-2008, 10:50 PM   #2
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Alright. I want to start by saying without coming across this website I may never have tried my first brew. That being said, I have and English Brown Ale in my primary. It's been there since Sun. I've read more conflicting info on the "When to Secondary" Sticky than my head can handle. So let me just state what I think are facts, and maybe someone can show me where I'm wrong.
1. Should never rack to secondary until fermentation is completely done.
2. Only way to tell when fermentation is done is with hydrometer readings.
3. Secondary is not necessary. Just helps with clarity and chill haze.
4. Leaving in primary will not pick up "off" flavors from trub.
5. The longer I leave it in secondary the better the taste and clarity will be.
6. 1-2-3 method is guideline but not necessarily "right."
7. Bottles should condition for at least 3 weeks. Longer the better.
8. One could leave just in primary for say 3 weeks then bottle and be just as good

So basically all my questions are about secondary.
Also, I've had my primary fermenting at between 67F and 72 the whole time.
Came home from work today and it was at 78F (only for about 4 hours)
Will this 4 hrs of being out of proper range affect the flavor?

Anyone who could answer any or all these questions would make my day. I do not want to screw up my first brew. I'll be sitting here enjoying my Sammy Smith Taddy Porter (I don't have any homebrew yet, but with some help it will be about 5 weeks. Thanks everyone.
1. True
2. True
3. It is only required on lagers and big beers, optional on the rest
4. True, up to at least 4 weeks
5. True
6. True
7. True
8. True, see #4
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There are much more that could and has been said on all these topics, best to search them out and read up one topic at a time.
Plus there are exceptions to almost every rule. I answered them as pertaining to your English Brown Ale, there would have been a little different for a lager for example
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Old 01-24-2008, 10:53 PM   #3
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As stated above you have covered the topic very well. There is no rule just guidelines.

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Old 01-24-2008, 11:04 PM   #4
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I agree with everything posted above. You seem to have a really good understanding of the processes, and it sounds like your beer is on track to be a good one!

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Old 01-24-2008, 11:09 PM   #5
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Thanks. SuperiorBrewer. I know the type of beer is what determines most everything. I'm really only interested in Ales and Stouts right now. I don't have the equip. to do lagers right now. I've read probably 75% of the posts on this forum. (No S$%t). I've just read a ton of conflicting info on Secondary fermentation.

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Thanks, Yooper. I'm still not decided on whether to rack to a secondary yet though. Either way, I now realize that whether or not the beer turns out I need to get started on another one. Either the beer will be great and I'll drink it and pass it out, or it will suck and I'll be itching to try again. So, I want to make either a Chocolate or Oatmeal Stout. Does anyone know if Brewer's Best makes an extract with steeping grains kit. That's what my LHBS has. Also am I mistaken or does every other member on here have EdWort's Aphlwein brewing primary or secondary or on tap? Is it that good. Can someone convince me because I've never had a good cider.

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I've done alot of Brewer's Best kits when I first started brewing, and I think they all were extract and steeping grains. I thought they worked out just fine. Another thing to consider is an online brewstore- notably austinhomebrew.com and northernbrewer.com. They have kits that they make up fresh as you order, and you can choice anything from a certain style to a clone brew of your favorite beer. I've done several of them from ahs and they were wonderful. There is a special this Saturday for HBT members- 10% off. You'd have to find the thread with that info, but I'm ordering from them on Saturday.

I think I'm one of the only people who didn't do the apfelwein! It's just not my thing. I'm sure that the other 15,000 people around here would disagree, though-so try it if you're considering it!

And you're right- the best thing to do is start another brew right away. It really takes the angst out of waiting when you have another brew in the works. This is a very addicting hobby!

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The only rational thing is to keep the pipeline full.

[I didn't do apfelwein either. Revenge is a blackberry cider best served cold. And other than the bloodshed, the blackberries are free.]

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[I didn't do apfelwein either. Revenge is a blackberry cider best served cold. And other than the bloodshed, the blackberries are free.]
Excellent, because Ive got a blackberry cider going as we speak!
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Is is wrong to rack to the secondary only when the main fermentation has subsided a bit, after about 5 days or so? Does the hydrometer have to NOT move in order to rack?

What are the disadvantages of racking too soon?
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