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Thirdeye 12-31-2007 05:48 PM

Cleaning and Sanitizing Bottles...OMG
 
Its taking for freaking ever! Just took me 10 minutes to clean and rinse six bottles. Havent even sanitized yet. There has to be a better way. Do I really need to scrub all 48 bottles or can I go straight to sanitizing?

And speaking of sanitizing, what is the best way? Right now I have my 5 gallon bottling bucket full of 5 gallons of one step sanitizing solution. In the bucket is my racking cane and hoses as well as the lid. For sanitizing the bottles, I was going to do like 12 at a time, filling the bottles with sanitizing solution directly from the bucket. When that batch is done, I was going to dump the sanitizing solution from the bottles back into the bucket so it can be used with the next 12. Is there a better way?

My hands and fingers are shriveled up like raisins! Halp!

Poindexter 12-31-2007 05:52 PM

Yes, you really need to scrub all 48 bottles.

The scrubbing part goes a lot quicker if you first soak the bottles for 48 hours to 2 weeks in a strong solution of OxyClean.

If you are starting with new bottles just dunk them in the strong OxyClean and give the inside a quick once over with the bottle brush. It is the free bottles with the cigarette butts inthemthat take a long time to clean.

There is no 'best' way to sanitize. There probably is a single method that fits best with your current circumstances and equipment. Sounds like you would be happiest with one of the "no rinse" versions.

RU sanitizing with B-brite or C-brite? other?

Melana 12-31-2007 05:55 PM

We always wash our bottles well as we use them - two at a time (there are two of us). Our bottles are allowed to dry on the tree then stored upside down in the case boxes with a fresh peice of paper towel on the bottom.
We always look at the bottles and rinse before sanitizing.

Edit: I always wear rubber gloves... it might sound like a 'girly thing' to say but the sanitizer makes my nails peel and Oxyclean makes my skin dry, crack, and sometimes bleed.

Kevin Dean 12-31-2007 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThirdEye
There has to be a better way.

This is the statement that moves many of us to kegging. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThirdEye
Do I really need to scrub all 48 bottles or can I go straight to sanitizing?

You can't sanitize somethign that's not clean. The adage "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure" is applicable here. When you drink them, rinse them out. This might not matter right now if, for instance you got a truckload from a local bar, but in the future, this saves a TON of time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThirdEye
I was going to do like 12 at a time, filling the bottles with sanitizing solution directly from the bucket. When that batch is done, I was going to dump the sanitizing solution from the bottles back into the bucket so it can be used with the next 12. Is there a better way?

I'm partial to the "bake it" method. It can take longer in terms of time, but it's much easier in terms of sheer effort. Once the labels are off the bottles, you can bake them in the oven. Some info on that can be found -> http://www.boomchugalug.com/baking_bottles.htm

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Originally Posted by Melana
it might sound like a 'girly thing' to say but the sanitizer makes my nails peel

I think you have an excuse to do "girly" things. Now, others here would be fair game. ;)

Thirdeye 12-31-2007 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poindexter
Yes, you really need to scrub all 48 bottles.

The scrubbing part goes a lot quicker if you first soak the bottles for 48 hours to 2 weeks in a strong solution of OxyClean.

If you are starting with new bottles just dunk them in the strong OxyClean and give the inside a quick once over with the bottle brush. It is the free bottles with the cigarette butts inthemthat take a long time to clean.

There is no 'best' way to sanitize. There probably is a single method that fits best with your current circumstances and equipment. Sounds like you would be happiest with one of the "no rinse" versions.

RU sanitizing with B-brite or C-brite? other?

Maybe I should have mentioned that these bottles have only ever belonged to me. No cigs, and I rinsed them good (no soap, just water) when I finished drinking the factory beer out of them.

So youre saying in this case I can get away with cleaning and sanitizing in the same step sort of? Im using stuff called "One step sanitizer". Its an abrasive powder, kinda reminds me of ajax. 1tbs/gallon.

Dr Vorlauf 12-31-2007 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poindexter
Yes, you really need to scrub all 48 bottles.

The scrubbing part goes a lot quicker if you first soak the bottles for 48 hours to 2 weeks in a strong solution of OxyClean.

If you are starting with new bottles just dunk them in the strong OxyClean and give the inside a quick once over with the bottle brush. It is the free bottles with the cigarette butts inthemthat take a long time to clean.

There is no 'best' way to sanitize. There probably is a single method that fits best with your current circumstances and equipment. Sounds like you would be happiest with one of the "no rinse" versions.

RU sanitizing with B-brite or C-brite? other?

I soak for 30 min in strong oxyclean solution. I then take the bottles and rinse them with this:

http://www.austinhomebrew.com/produc...roducts_id=906

haven't used a bottle brush since I got this... works great for blasting carboys too..

It blasts the bottle with hot water, no need for scrubbing as the Oxyclean solution loosens up anything left in the bottle ( PS my bottles probably don't need to be claened at all since I always rinse thoroughly after drinking).


After this I take the bottles and run them in the dishwasher with just some sodium silicate ( you can just run them without any detergent or jet dry ). After they are done here I then dip in a sanitizing solution, then bottle )

TheJadedDog 12-31-2007 06:16 PM

I clean my bottles as soon as they are empty and store them in a rubbermaid container to keep them as clean as possible. On bottling day all I do is pull them out of the rubbermaid and sanitize them.

Thirdeye 12-31-2007 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TheJadedDog
I clean my bottles as soon as they are empty and store them in a rubbermaid container to keep them as clean as possible. On bottling day all I do is pull them out of the rubbermaid and sanitize them.

Exactly how do you sanitize?

Liquidicem 12-31-2007 06:21 PM

I usually rinse my bottles as a drink them. Then I soak them in oxy clean (~12 bottles in a 5 gallon bucket) for a few days. I then rinse them with a jet bottle washer and store them on a bottle tree to dry.

On bottling day I load up the dishwasher with all my bottle and just run them through with out soap with the heat dry on. Then one pump on this thing with Star San and they are ready to go.
http://www.northernbrewer.com/pics/f...ttlerinser.jpg

Neomich 12-31-2007 06:24 PM

I rinse mine out really well after using them and store them away after a visual inspection. Beer is mostly water anyways so the way I see it, I'm just emptying a bottle full of water with a little bit of sugars and it doesn't need "scrubbing". After that, I just run them through the dishwasher with no soap for the longest cycle I have with the dry cycle turned on. If I have the time or think about it, I might run the dishwasher completely empty first to get rid of any soap residue that might still be in there.

I haven't had any issues yet with a beer that's been bad. It takes me more time to fit them all in the dishwasher than anything but I can still get 50 - 55 bottles in at a time if I try. I have no desire to bottle more than one batch at a time so this works for me.


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