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Old 01-23-2013, 04:59 PM   #1
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Is PBW any better than Oxyclean at cleaning fermentors, bottles, glasses, etc?
Is one harder than the other to rinse well?
I've been using dish soap to clean everything, and I'm obviously not rinsing it well enough. Does using dish soap also effect things such as pot, spoon, colander, etc?

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PBW and Oxyclean are very similar from what I've read. I have never personally used PBW and use Oxy. It works awesome. Just fill up my bucket or carboy, let it soak overnight and wash out. I never have to scrub. All it takes is a few rinses and then I move to sanitizing. Highly recommend Oxyclean. It's readily available and cheap.

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I have very hard water and found that bottles that are soaked for days have a powdery white buildup, which is why I never used it for anything else.

I ended up filling the bottles with water and setting them upright to keep the Oxyclean out so it only works on the labels.

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To remove labels, I soak the bottles in a 5 gallon solution of oxi clean + star san. After an hour, they mostly just fall right off. Once I scrubbed the remaining glue residue off with a sponge, I soak them in another 5 gallon bucket filled with hot tap water to rinse. I suppose leaving them in the bucket for 2 hours would make things even easier, but really it was so easy after an hour that I figured there was no point in letting them sit any longer. Be aware that your hands will be very dry after doing this though.

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PBW contains sodium metasilicate, which Oxiclean (or generics) generally do not. Supposedly, this improves cleanliness, and helps remove any inorganic solids that are attached to your bottles or carboys.

Many on this forum like to use a 2:1 mix of Oxiclean to TSP/90 (available at most hardware stores . .. make sure you don't get regular TSP). TSP/90 is Sodium Metasilicate, and this mix leaves you pretty close to the design of PBW.

Personally, I think the cost of PBW is worth it. It cleans really well, and it's not that expensive (maybe $1 to clean up for each batch of brew). But to each their own.

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From my research on the both products, and from other forum threads I have come to understand that #1) you should never use dish soap as it leaves a residue that is very hard to get rid of, and can ruin a batch of beer. #2) oxyclean is great for general cleaning and rinsing of equipment that does not have stubborn stuck on deposits, where as PBW is better for cleaning your primary fermenters, or anything with stuck on deposits. Both oxyclean and PBW require a lot of rinsing. PbW is expensive, so many like to use it only for the tough jobs.

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Let's see, I've used oxyclean, B-Brite, PBW and Easy Clean.

Of these four I'd say PBW and B-Brite are the best, in that order, but oxy and Easy work too, just not as well.

Nothing cleans a gunky carboy like PBW and warm 100 degree water.

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I get a 1lb jar of PBW from midwest for $5.50. Not that expensive when you concider how far it goes. And no build up like oxy does. The jar has instructions for how much to use depending on what you're trying to clean off. Does a great job for me,so it's PBW & starsan all the way.
And dish soap has an enzyme in it to sheet off water spots that kills head retention. That's why not to use it on glasses,bottles,etc.
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I get a 1lb jar of PBW from midwest for $5.50. Not that expensive when you concider how far it goes. And no build up like oxy does. The jar has instructions for how much to use depending on what you're trying to clean off. Does a great job for me,so it's PBW & starsan all the way.
And dish soap has an enzyme in it to sheet off water spots that kills head retention. That's why not to use it on glasses,bottles,etc.
Yep, you can't go wrong with 5-Star products.

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Well,like Mr Scott says,always use the right tool for the job. They are tyhe best tools for the job imo.
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