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Old 03-20-2011, 08:20 PM   #1
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Cheers! New brewer here,

- 1 beer that I am drinking: Irish Cat's Ass Stout
- 1 beer conditioning: Puss in Cowboy Boots Texas Ale
- Currently preparing for my 3rd batch: Citra Hop Burst Experiment #1

I was hoping to get some feedback from folks on the recipe attached below. I am attempting to brew a light colored and bodied beer with a sweet hop flavor and aroma that punches you in the face when you bring the pint up.

Is there anything in this recipe that looks overtly rediculous, unbalanced, that might make you think it may result in an unbalance, untasty brew?

This recipe is inspired by a delicious beer I had at my favorite brewery.

I also have an alternate version of this recipe that minuses 1 can of the Pilsner extract and adds 2 lbs of dexterose. The idea here was to make it dryer but keep the gravity up. then I started thinking that it might be too dry (like my stout), so i altered as below.

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American IPA.

Type: Extract
Batch Size: 5.00 gal
Boil Size: 3.25 gal
Boil Time: 60 min
Equipment: Brew Pot (4 Gallon)

Ingredients:

Amount Item Type % or IBU
3.30 lb Pilsner Liquid Extract (3.5 SRM) Extract 30.28 %
3.30 lb Pilsner Liquid Extract [Boil for 10 min] Extract 30.28 %
3.30 lb Pilsner Liquid Extract [Boil for 11 min] Extract 30.28 %
1.00 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 10L (10.0 SRM) Grain 9.17 %
2.00 oz Citra [12.30 %] (15 min) Hops 24.3 IBU
2.00 oz Citra [12.30 %] (10 min) Hops 17.8 IBU
1.00 oz Citra [12.30 %] (5 min) Hops 4.9 IBU
2.00 oz Citra [12.30 %] (1 min) Hops 2.1 IBU
2.00 oz Citra [12.30 %] (Dry Hop; add at rack to 2nd) Hops -
5.00 gal Chicago, IL Water
1 Pkgs American Ale (Wyeast Labs #1056) Yeast-Ale



Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.072 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.017 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 7.19 %
Bitterness: 86.5 IBU
Calories: 327 cal/pint
Est Color: 6.7
SRM Color: pail yellowishniss
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Old 03-20-2011, 08:48 PM   #2
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Where are the bittering additions?



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Old 03-20-2011, 09:04 PM   #3
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All bittering is done with lots of hops late in the boil. Beer Smith gave me IBU's of 86.5 with that hop schedule.

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Old 03-20-2011, 10:09 PM   #4
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i thought a boil of 30mins + was required to extract bittering characteristics of hops.

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Old 03-20-2011, 10:31 PM   #5
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It is my understanding that the longer you boil, the more the hop alpha acids will isomerize. However, I am not sure that it takes 30 minutes for that isomerization to begin. I have yet to find anything that states it does, but i am still researching.

With hop bursting, the idea is to obtain you bitterness balance and high hop aroma and flavor by hammering the back end of the boil with way more hops that you would traditionally use. Thus providing the bitterness you need without boiling off all the aroma and flavor.

How long in a boil does it take to hops to begin isomerization? Hmmmmmm....

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Old 03-20-2011, 10:33 PM   #6
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I say try it. Please post back w results. I am interested how it will turn out.

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Definitely give it a try. Why did you decide to do a 60 minute boil? Why not a short 30 or 20 minute boil?

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Have you used Citra hops before? My first attempt at using them was ... less than satisfactory. I think I would chose a different hop for hop bursting and use Citra only for dry hopping and maybe very small flavor additions.

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Have you used Citra hops before? My first attempt at using them was ... less than satisfactory. I think I would chose a different hop for hop bursting and use Citra only for dry hopping and maybe very small flavor additions.
Yeah, my experience with citra was the same. I made an all-citra APA which I hated. It screamed MANGO and was one-dimensional. Very tropical. I dryhopped with caccade hoping to cover some of it, but it ended up tasting like Juicy Fruit gum.

If you're likely to like the hugely tropical mango flavor of the late additions of citra, that's fine. I didn't like it one bit.
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Definitely give it a try. Why did you decide to do a 60 minute boil? Why not a short 30 or 20 minute boil?
Agreed. No reason to do a 60 minute boil of the extract, since the point of boiling is for isomerization of the hops oils. Without adding hops, boiling the extract seems pointless.


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