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Old 06-18-2010, 02:41 AM   #1
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I'm an expat living in China and thoroughly scanned the entire country for homebrew supplies with very limited results. I have also been struggling with translations of certain items which is also adding to my headaches. From this forum I can gather that the majority of homebrewing is done in the US where all of these great recipe's ingredients can be bought at your local homebrew stores. I however am not so lucky, and have not been able to find an exact match to any recipe online. I however have managed to source the following ingredients:

40lb Amber Dry malt extract
20lb High Temp Kilned Barley Malt
20lb Caramel malt
6 ounces flavoring hops (german) no AAU numbers
2 ounces bittering hops (local Chinese)
200g  Yeast Saflager s-189

Can anyone help me with a 5 gallon recipe with the above ingredients? Thanks in advance!

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Old 06-18-2010, 03:19 AM   #2
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I'm an expat living in China and thoroughly scanned the entire country for homebrew supplies with very limited results. I have also been struggling with translations of certain items which is also adding to my headaches. From this forum I can gather that the majority of homebrewing is done in the US where all of these great recipe's ingredients can be bought at your local homebrew stores. I however am not so lucky, and have not been able to find an exact match to any recipe online. I however have managed to source the following ingredients:

40lb Amber Dry malt extract
20lb High Temp Kilned Barley Malt
20lb Caramel malt
6 ounces flavoring hops (german) no AAU numbers
2 ounces bittering hops (local Chinese)
200g  Yeast Saflager s-189

Can anyone help me with a 5 gallon recipe with the above ingredients? Thanks in advance!
where are you in china? I'll be shipping a great deal of stuff there in the next week and if you are near beijing we could work out something. I'll be there in person next month.
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Old 06-18-2010, 03:38 AM   #3
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Thank you so much for the offer, I will repay you in spades when you are out here. I'm also in Beijing, can you send me a way to contact you? My email is courses(at)beijing-classes.com

In the meantime do you think I can brew a batch with the ingredients I have?

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Old 07-07-2010, 02:03 PM   #4
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Where in beijing are you guys?

Where can you buy ingredient/homebrew equipment out here?

Also i would be down for a home-brew-talk meetup if you guys would. Be nice to talk to other people in this city who know anything about beer.

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Absolutely you can brew a batch! The only thing is you have a lager yeast, so you will have to have cooler temperatures. You could make a Marzen-like beer. For five gallons, use 8-10 lbs of your amber extract, steep about 6-8 oz of your crystal and do an oz of your german hops for 60 min, and another at 15 min or so, and maybe steep one more at 5 minutes. Cool down as low as you can reasonably get it and pitch that lager yeast! Experiment with some different combinations of grain and the malt extract you have and keep repitching with the same yeast until you can find some more. Your local chinese hops might be a variety of sorachi, a japanese hop, and they have a neat flavor with kind of a citrusy bite to them, like lemons.

Get brewing! Get creative! Good luck!

(You might find some bottles of ale somewhere with yeast sediment in them still; if you do, you can use the amber extract to create a starter and cultivate that. You'll have more temperature flexibility with that.)

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Old 07-07-2010, 02:42 PM   #6
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Not so good with recipe's on the fly, that's quite a bit of Extract you have there.

I'll be in Beijing sometime in Sept for a few nights, maybe you'll have a homebrew ready by then?

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Did you check the local China law on brewing beer?

I have lived in many Asian countries and it is important not to run afoul of the laws.

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Here is an online recipe building software. Add the ingredients you have and then tailor it to match the style you want to brew.

http://beercalculus.hopville.com/recipe

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Did you check the local China law on brewing beer?

I have lived in many Asian countries and it is important not to run afoul of the laws.
Here in china laws are very lax about these types of things.

I dont know if there are any actual laws against homebrewing but its not like if the cops busted in (which they shouldnt) they would have any clue what you were doing. You can say its fancy American Soup and they would probably believe you.
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...just wondered since you have been having trouble finding brewing supplies, I would think there must be a reason why. If brewing is not legal in communist China that would be a good reason, I suppose.

Good luck - don't end up in the clink!

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