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**BansheeRider** · 12-27-2012, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by davekippen

I know some of us use glass because that is what comes in the "starter" kits. Not sure why they dont stock those kits with better bottles. Ugh. Guess I need to inspect my hauler. I rarely use my glass carboy though, Im at about 95% single vessel fermentation (bucket).

They do. Normally it's an option when ordering online.

adamjackson · 12-27-2012, 03:01 AM

Milk Crates are your friend! That or just using plastic PET bottles.

**Airborneguy** · 12-27-2012, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by LandoLincoln

Really? We're going to do this AGAIN?

There's only two negatives I can think of.

1) They're heavier.
2) They're made of glass that can break and hurt you.

Positives:

1) They'll theoretically last a heck of a lot longer than plastic.
2) You can scrub them with brushes.
3) They're impervious to infections.
4) They come in bigger sizes than plastic ones.
5) The bottoms don't buckle when you move them and disturb the trub.

"Theoretically" speaking, my arteries are far more important than my beer. Even if any of your above listed reasons were true, I'd still prefer plastic over death. Did we forget that a poster on this site actually lost his brother to a carboy accident? That's a little too real for me.

**BansheeRider** · 12-27-2012, 03:04 AM

I have a brand new brew hauler that I haven't used yet. Now I am hesitant to use it.

**LandoLincoln** · 12-27-2012, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 509inc

Your Positives are a joke. I scrub my Better Bottles with brushes and no infections here.

Now back to driving my pre-1963 car with no seat belts to my house with asbestos insulation and lead paint.

That's nice. Anecdotes are not data.

People drive motorcycles, even though there's a good chance that you'll be dead if you get into an accident. I suppose next we'll start talking about how everyone should drive cars.

**LandoLincoln** · 12-27-2012, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Airborneguy

Even if any of your above listed reasons were true, I'd still prefer plastic over death. Did we forget that a poster on this site actually lost his brother to a carboy accident? That's a little too real for me.

That's your choice. And that's fine.

**brewguyver** · 12-27-2012, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by richfei

Would a furniture dolly work ? I was in Home Depot and I saw one for less than $20. It would seem to be more flexible too since it would transport more than just a carboy

Just saw pictures of a group brew where a guy was using a flat furniture dolly. My immediate reaction was "duh - why don't I do that." lugging full 10 gal buckets up stairs is getting old about as fast as I am. Harbor freight has them at reasonable prices.

I'm glad I didn't opt for the brew hauler. Those things scare me about as much as the carboy neckers do. I'm a "one hand on the bottom and one hand on the neck" kind of guy. Works for all sorts of situations.

**hoppyhoppyhippo** · 12-27-2012, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Airborneguy

Why do people still use glass? No offense man, I just don't see any positives and plenty of negatives.

Better bottles are awesome. But there are plenty of positives to glass. It's clearer (not huge) can't scratch, and will not show signs of wear and tear. There's also no fear of potential oxygen permeation.

That said I prefer better bottles, but I got a glass carboy with my starter kit so I'll use that until I can't (aka it breaks) but I'll purchase BB because primarily it's cheaper. But I know several people who swear by glass and will never change. And I admit that the only concerns I have with BB is scratching (which then makes it worthless) and that because it's plastic it's not as rigid so you have to be more careful picking it up or you could have airlock material falling into your carboy.

iambeer · 12-27-2012, 04:25 AM

As far as I'm concerned, fermenting ought to be done in stainless steel, or glass if you can't afford ss. Plastic is a nasty thing. Not only is it naturally toxic until controlled and washed, it is porous. Even the precious HPDE is porous; it captures all kinds of tastes including whatever is in the air. You can never get rid of a smell completely from the plastic.

Glass doesn't have that problem. Simple. Yes, glass breaks.

Thanks to the OP for the message. Those cheap nylon straps are way over priced anyway.

**diS** · 12-27-2012, 09:32 AM

I prefer glass over plastic, you just have to be more careful when you transfer them.. that's why I build rope hauler for my carboys: