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Old 09-19-2014, 07:59 AM   #1
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Default Can humid air infect beer as you transfer it?

My beers are always sour and I have eliminated anything i have done in my methods. I have bleached everything and still they turn sour.

In a carboy at 20c beer has turned sour.

Could it be the 95% humidity, 35c (95c) air that is infecting it as I coil cool the beer?

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Old 09-19-2014, 08:21 AM   #2
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What are you using? Extract, all grain? Did you mill grain yourself? What are your procedures during a typical brew day?

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Old 09-19-2014, 09:10 AM   #3
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I am using all grain.

I sometimes buy them precrushed but last time I blended them lightly.
After sanitizing with bleach, everything 20 mins, 1tbsp per gallon.
I do the mash for an hour at 66 in a cooler I also sanitized.
Boil and cool with cooler and pour into fermenter.
Left it for 2 weeks after it went completely dry with belle saision yeast.
Tasted it, seemed ok but not tasty.
Tried it after 3 weeks in bottle, soury. Fair amount of yeast cake in bottom of bottles, maybe quarter inch.
Smelled washed yeast, also soury. This was a first time use on the yeast.
Seems maybe the tubes infected it except I bleached them as well.

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Old 09-19-2014, 11:54 AM   #4
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It's the bleach switch to Starsan or some other sanitizer. When I started I used bleach and I could never get rid of the awful chlorine/sour flavor. Switched to Starsan and beer has been great since.

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Old 09-19-2014, 11:59 AM   #5
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But I have only used bleach this last time. All the other times it was k meta and they all had this problem,

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What kind of yeast and how are you preparing it before pitching?

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Go with Star San. It's no rinse so that helps...also make sure everything is clean as you can't sanitize dirty equipment.

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Also another thought, what condition is your fermenting bucket/carboy in? Are they plastic? Is the interior surface roughened or scratched up?

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It's the bleach switch to Starsan or some other sanitizer. When I started I used bleach and I could never get rid of the awful chlorine/sour flavor. Switched to Starsan and beer has been great since.

^^^^This! Do a thorough cleansing w/ B-Brite or similar in hot water then rinse thoroughly. Sanitize w/ StarSan. Empty container(s) but do not rinse. You should sanitize everything that comes in contact w/ your wort.


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Anything that touches your chilled wort or beer needs to be sanitized.

Please switch to Starsan. It's a no-rinse sanitizer.

Items need to be clean before you can sanitize them.
Good cleaners are, in order of preference, PBW, Oxiclean free (or dollar-store off brand), and washing soda.
Use brushes, sponges, soft scrubbies or clean rags to clean your equipment. Don't scratch it.
Replace your tubing when in doubt. Although you can clean it, it may not be worth the risk.

Rinse all the cleaner off and soak in Starsan for at least 30 seconds, 1 minute preferred. Longer won't harm, though some metals may start to dissolve or discolor. You can keep the Starsan working solution for a long, long time, as long as it stays well acidic, pH 2.5-3.0. Put some in a spray bottle too. Very handy.

So check and recheck all the steps you do carefully and find out where you're overlooking something.

Also, don't mill grain where you ferment.

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