What and how much did you use to get it black? Also how many gallons did you brew? I just did a 3 gallon black ipa, and 8oz. of debittered black was all it needed to get it black. I was worried it was going to be a very dark brown, and that worried me because I did want it black, like my stouts, lol. Brown ipas are fine, Lagunitas brown sugga is amazing.