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Old 03-26-2012, 06:20 PM   #11
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Do you have an actual thermometer ON your primary fermenter? Remember that the beer temp can be 8 degrees HIGHER than air temp for the first several days of fermentation and fermenting an ale over 72F can certainly cause all types of taste problems, especially on 2 week old (green) bottle conditioning beer! I know it's been too hot in Virginia for fermenting without climate control so I can imagine it's been hot in AL!



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Old 03-26-2012, 07:21 PM   #12
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It probably did get a little higher in the last few days in the secondary but not as much as I had thought. I did notice the other day when I had a Black Lager, that it had the same slick feeling to it as mine did. Are there certain ingredients that tend to have the same effect to the beer as mine did? Although I am more then certain now that the advice given here is much better than my screwed up pallet for detecting flaws in beer. I just had blocks of ice around it in a cooler with no water. Having to work late the last week of it being in the secondary, the temps most likely rose to high, but the first week of fermentation I thought I had it reading of about 63F outside the bucket so I figured I was safe.

Will this clear up after a week or two more of will if generally be like this?



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Old 03-26-2012, 07:23 PM   #13
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I did a newcastle clone recently and it is very off too. my first bad batch. I didn't get any oily flavors or texture, but it just isn't great. I kept mine very cold too, so I doubt it was fermenting too high.

Was this a midwest kit?

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Old 03-27-2012, 01:34 AM   #14
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I have a stick on thermometer that typically read in the low to mid 60's while in the primary. I will give it the other few weeks to age better and hope it all levels out more. The kit came from a Homebrew store. If there is a ratio of 1 week to 1.010 of OG, my 1.050 would need the 5 weeks after being bottled to achieve proper levels. But if this is a bad batch, after 5 weeks this will be a terrible batch?

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Old 03-27-2012, 01:05 PM   #15
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I have a stick on thermometer that typically read in the low to mid 60's while in the primary. I will give it the other few weeks to age better and hope it all levels out more. The kit came from a Homebrew store. If there is a ratio of 1 week to 1.010 of OG, my 1.050 would need the 5 weeks after being bottled to achieve proper levels. But if this is a bad batch, after 5 weeks this will be a terrible batch?
Your temperatures seem fine then. The first 4-7 days in primary is the most critical to keep the temps stable in the mid 60's. After that it can warm up to low 70's without much effect.

If it tastes bad after 2 weeks I would not expect it to get anything but better in a few more weeks unless it is bacteria contaminated.

I brewed a stout as my second kit and it tasted rough after 2-3 weeks in bottles, so rough that I preferred the taste of store bought beer to it! So I forgot about that batch for about 8 weeks and then put a few in the fridge for a week and unbelievably....they were awesome!

Give em time!
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Mine's still bad after about 6 weeks. I'm not gonna toss it as it is usable in cooking and drinkable, but not what I would consider a great beer.

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Mine's still bad after about 6 weeks. I'm not gonna toss it as it is usable in cooking and drinkable, but not what I would consider a great beer.
If you used a tried and true recipe and it still came out bad I would suspect oxidation, water chemistry or your process.
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If you used a tried and true recipe and it still came out bad I would suspect oxidation, water chemistry or your process.
Oxidation I suppose is possible. Water is fine as it's worked for 7+ other batches, and same process. I musta messed something up.
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The actual Newcastle ale recipe uses two blended beers a dark strong ale and a low gravity amber. That is what gives Newcastle it's taste. Also the dark ale is aged for a few months before blending. If you are comparing your beer to a Newcastle and didn't use the blended method you won't have the same taste as new castle.

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After another month in the bottles, I rarely have that weird feeling about it. Then again, I think I was the only one that noticed it. So it might just be me.

Turned out to be a nice brew.



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