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Old 10-16-2011, 01:38 PM   #1
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Default Is briess crystal 40L the same as Briess caramel 40L?

Trying to make a belgian pale ale (extract)... came across a recipe from Tastybrew.com for a Belgian Honey Pale Ale that uses Crystal 40L. I get most of my supplies from Northern Brewer and they only have Briess Caramel 40L. Are they the same thing?
Also, I take it that the Crystal 40L, Carapils, and Belgian biscuit are steeping grains? Is 2lbs of grains a lot? First time deviating from a recipe kit.
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5 gallon batch

6.00lbs Light Malt Extract Syrup
1.00 Honey
1.00 Crystal 40L
0.50 CaraPils
0.50 Belgian Biscuit

1.00 Goldings 60min
1.00 Goldings 2min

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Old 10-16-2011, 02:08 PM   #2
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Yep, crystal vs. caramel is just an American English vs. England English thing.

I can't tell if that "honey" is bee honey or honey malt, which is a type of grain that leaves a little bit of sweetness in the finished product. Too bad the recipe is not a little clearer. Hmm. But yes, those would be the steeping grains.

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This is a little off topic but take it for what it's worth, the recipe could be more authentic with a few minor changes.

-Instead of light LME use Pilsen
-For crystal 40 use the Belgian version CaraMunich
-For CaraPils use Belgian Carmel Pils
-Lose the 2 min Golding addition. Belgian ales have very little if any late hop additions, it's all about the yeast character.

A side note, Biscuit really needs to be mashed. I can't remember if it has enough enzymes to self convert so may need the help of a base malt. You can get away with steeping it, it's just not ideal.

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Thanks!
I am definitely up for suggestions. This would be my first recipe without a kit, so any help would be welcomed.

I really like Smuttynose Star Island Single, which is suppose to be a Belgian Pale Ale, so not sure if it is "Americanized" or a classic Belgian. It's not very hoppy, so my original recipe might not be similar given the late hop addition.
Anyone familiar with this beer?

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