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Old 01-15-2010, 12:18 AM   #1
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Default Brewing Saturday, too late for a yeast starter?

I knew this would be the problem with trying to improve my beer making with making a yeast starter. It is remembering to do it 4 days prior to brew day! Of course, I forgot again. Now, I have to buy all the ingredients at the local brew shop tomorrow after work (which will be Friday night). I plan to brew on Saturday. I have a stir plate and plan on using a Wyeast liquid pack. Would there be any possibility to create a starter and have it ready to pitch Saturday afternoon at this point?

Or can I brew the beer (wort) on Saturday and keep it in a carboy several days until the yeast starter is ready to pitch?

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Old 01-15-2010, 12:21 AM   #2
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yes. According to Jamil Zainasheff, he routinely recommends a one day starter. He suggests pitching at "high krausen". I've had better luck with a 48 hour time, but one day is pretty good if your yeast is fresh.

Edit- I answered before the post was edited. Don't wait. Pitch the yeast starter ASAP. No need to wait. Even a 12 hour starter is better than no starter.

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Old 01-15-2010, 12:23 AM   #3
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You probably can get by if you're brewing a < 1.050 beer & pitch your starter a high krausen. I know it's not optimal but I'd probably just do a 2L starter. You won't have time to do a 1L & step it up to a 2L.

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I routinely pitch yeast the next day - just because I like pitching cold (around 60-62) and sometimes (during spring/summer) I can't get the wort down that low with the chiller alone. If you are confident in your sanitary practices, go for it. If you want to be super sure, a 24 hour starter is better than no starter at all.

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On my stir plate a 2l starter is usually totally done in 18hr.

I usually do mine on thurs for a sunday eve brew.

What size does mrmalty say you need. 1l starter explodes pretty quick.

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Old 01-15-2010, 06:10 AM   #6
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Yes. I routinely do 24 hour starters. I'm brewing on sat and going to do my starter 24h before and dump the whole thing in when it's pitching time.

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Dan from stirstarters suggests 18-24 hrs prior

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Yeah I do about 18 hr. 1L Starters and I feel this is the best way to go cause the yeast are active when they hit the wort so no delay or strain. JMO though

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So at this point I can do this:

1. Smack the yeast pack, let it swell
2. Boil 2 quarts of water with 2 cups of DME
3. Chill the water, add to flask
4. Pitch the yeast into the flask
5. Put on stir plate over night?

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I've made starters about 8 hours in advance and never had a problem. When I do this (not ideal - usually I let my starters go 3-4 days) I'll add 1tsp. of yeast nutrient to the starter. Keep an eye on it though, it can get very vigorous!

When harvesting yeast from a bottle of commercial beer, I add 1/2tsp of yeast nutrient to my starter (since you're usually pitching a very small amount of yeast.) I just harvested some yeast from a bottle of Lammin Sahti this way and it worked great.

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