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Old 04-19-2014, 02:19 PM   #1
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Default Brewing with honey

I guess this isn't a complete beginner question, but it doesn't involve techniques.

I am looking to make a simple strong honey-based beer, all extract, with only what I have on hand. I will probably add specialty grains steeped but I have not thought that far ahead yet.

I have 9 lbs of gold LME and 3 lbs of honey on hand, as well as 1 lb of caramel 60, 1 lb of Marris Otter, and 1 lb of unmalted barley. I would like to use all the honey- how much LME can I add without overwhelming my yeast? I planned on pitching US-05, rehydrated. Will this be able to handle a relatively big beer? Will I need to double pitch?

My LHBS has a pretty dreadful supply of liquid yeasts, and I want to brew this weekend, so I am limited to dry, non-specialty yeast.

Any thoughts are appreciated!

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Old 04-19-2014, 02:40 PM   #2
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Totally depends on how big of a batch you're planning to make. There's nothing wrong with adding honey to a beer, just keep in mind that the final fg will be lower than with malt only.


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I used 4 pounds of honey to a Kolsch and it ended up not being that good because i didnt use enough yeast. You need a lot of yeast, or a big starter to ferment out all the honey if you are going to use all three pounds. I have used 2 in the past with no problems and the taste and aroma was what i was looking for.

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Old 04-19-2014, 03:13 PM   #4
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Lets say I want to use all 3 lbs and am ok with double pitching. What is the max I can hit for my LME and still have a complete fermentation? I am fine with this taking some time to be ready to drink.

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Old 04-19-2014, 03:21 PM   #5
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If this helps... The LME is divided us 3lbs/6lbs. I was thinking I would use the 6 + 3 lbs of honey and either cascade or perle for the hops.

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You can use all of your LME and 3lbs of honey, as long as you double your yeast as you said. I would also suggest, if its dry, yeast to rehydrate it. Its gonna be a big beer.

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Thanks, everyone.

If I only go 6 lbs + honey and rehydrate my yeast will I still need to double pitch?

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i def would just for the 3lbs of honey.

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Cool. I want something relatively big that I can enjoy a couple of pints of and still be able to walk, you know?

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Try out this calculator for estimated OG and FG.
http://www.brewersfriend.com/extract-ogfg/

Look up the fermentability of honey, convert to pounds LME, and add as pounds of LME. Select the 'yeast alcohol tolerance' from Yeast Stats in the lower right hand side of the calculator page.

Good calculator for pitch rate once you have your estimated OG.
http://www.brewersfriend.com/yeast-p...er-calculator/

Good luck with the brew.

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