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Old 05-01-2013, 08:07 PM   #11
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if stansan isn't available get iodophor, its just iodine and available anywhere there is agriculture, medical supplies.

its also no rinse, no drying needed. With starsan available, I still use iodophor at least as often, maybe more.
It doesn't have the shelf life of starsan. It off-gasses with light and heat, but 48hours is easy to achieve.

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Old 05-01-2013, 08:17 PM   #12
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It my take longer but after cleaning them couldn't you steam the bottles for a few minutes in a steamer (colander suspended in a pot of boiling water) to sanitize the bottles if you don't have access to StarSan?

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Old 05-01-2013, 08:19 PM   #13
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The hot steam would have to get up inside the bottles long enough for the heat to work. I'd just order the small bottle of starsan online. I bought the small bottle a couple years ago,& still have 3/4'thsd of it easy. Stuff lasts a long time.

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Old 05-01-2013, 09:56 PM   #14
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I was just wondering if i could use my Sanitize setting on my Dishwasher and use my rack to dry the bottles.
also this will be my 1st batch

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Old 05-10-2013, 12:48 PM   #15
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I was just wondering if i could use my Sanitize setting on my Dishwasher and use my rack to dry the bottles.
also this will be my 1st batch
I read on another thread stating that you can do this but you have to make sure NOT to use any detergent and to also make sure there is no rinse aid in the dishwasher.
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Old 05-10-2013, 01:14 PM   #16
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Ive been using my dishwasher to sanitize since I got started. Ive done it both with and without detergent. In fact, my whole bottling process revolves around the dishwasher. I sanitize them and then fill them on the top of the open door to catch spills. When Im done, close the door and no mess. Theres a great thread on bottling by Revvy somewhere around here that I made my own.

Re the detergent -from what I understand, the detergent/rinse additive may kill your head and or harm head retention.

Anecdotally, I havent noticed any difference and still use detergent.

ETA - found the revvy thread here...http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f35/bott...ebrewer-94812/

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This may be a dumb question... but doesn't rinsing after sanitizing defeat the purpose? I've used Starsan with the vinator since the beginning with great success, I use PBW to clean my bottles prior to sanitizing. On another note, don't confuse cleaning and sanitizing, they're two different beasts.

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Ive been using my dishwasher to sanitize since I got started. Ive done it both with and without detergent. In fact, my whole bottling process revolves around the dishwasher. I sanitize them and then fill them on the top of the open door to catch spills. When Im done, close the door and no mess. Theres a great thread on bottling by Revvy somewhere around here that I made my own.

Re the detergent -from what I understand, the detergent/rinse additive may kill your head and or harm head retention.

Anecdotally, I havent noticed any difference and still use detergent.

ETA - found the revvy thread here...http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f35/bott...ebrewer-94812/

Also, some detergents will leave a detergent "taste" behind.
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This may be a dumb question... but doesn't rinsing after sanitizing defeat the purpose?
Only if you have bacteria living in your water that can also survive in beer. It's a risk, but not a very big one.
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