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Old 02-20-2011, 01:53 PM   #1
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Default Black IPA Color problem.

I just started brewing within the last few months. I tried a Black IPA using 8 lbs of pale malt extract and used 1lb each of Black Patent, Chocolate U.S., and Carma pils Special Grain/Steeped for 30min. I brewed a 3 gallon pot and finished with 5 gallons after adding water

The color on the beer calculator was suppose to be dark black though it came out brown. Im not sure what went wrong? Any suggestions?

We steeped the grain and timed it 30 mins from the time it hit the room temp tap water. I have read in some sites that it should be 30 min between 150 and 170 degrees (Is this best?). I am just paranoid about over doing it and getting tannin flavors.

Thanks for any advice.



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Old 02-20-2011, 02:29 PM   #2
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That seems like a lot of specialty grains. I threw your malt bill into BrewBuilder http://www.brewmasterswarehouse.com/brew-builder and got a SRM of 55.62.

Also, it depends on what temp you were stable at during the steep. I leave mine usually about 155 F



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Old 02-20-2011, 02:31 PM   #3
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What temp did you steep at? As long as you stay below 170F you won't have any tannin extraction. It's very hard to believe 1lb of black patent made brown beer, that stuff is mad black.

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Old 02-20-2011, 03:06 PM   #5
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Were the grains crushed?
yeah, my first thought as well...
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Old 02-20-2011, 03:48 PM   #6
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Thanks for the response guys,

I crushed the grains but was afraid to over crush, Im a new brewer and thought this could lead to problem with flavor. I just used a rolling pin and a zip lock bag.

I didnt steep at a set temp, I just threw them in at room temp and turned the burner on high and then took them out at 30 minutes the temp just reach about 165 by the time it hit 30min. Im guessing I should keep the pot at stable 155/160 and then do a 30 min steep. I think that was my problem.

Is using 3 lbs of special grain a bad thing?

Thanks again.

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With a pound each of Black Patent and Chocolate, you made a porter, not an IPA.

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what kind of hops did you use anyway?

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With a pound each of Black Patent and Chocolate, you made a porter, not an IPA.
Agreed. I prefer using de-bittered black malt like Carafa III Special.

If I can't find de-bittered black malt, I steep a half pound of roasted barley and a half pound of chocolate in cold water overnight, which will result in fewer tannins being added to your wort.
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Old 02-20-2011, 04:03 PM   #10
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I used the patent because it was all I can find in the area and refuse to pay shipping, Im a broke Grad Student.

The hops I used where Simcoe and Amarrillo. Its at about an IBU level of 70. ABV is about 6.5 though I havent tasted it, Im bottling next week.



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