Happy HolidaySs Giveaway - Last Sponsor Giveaway of the Year!

Come Enter the BrewDeals/FastFerment Giveaway!


Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Beginners Beer Brewing Forum > Big mistake???
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 11-01-2009, 04:21 PM   #1
hapifam
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Oregon
Posts: 9
Default Big mistake???

Last night I bottled an ESB that was brewed w/ Wyeast 1968 London ESB yeast. OG was 1.054. Last night it was 1.020. It had been at almost 1.022 when I racked it a week ago, which reactivated it somewhat. It has been fairly inactive for about 3-4 days, so I figured it was done now and went ahead and bottled. Temperature was pretty darned good (around 68) almost all of the time, although it got down around 64 once or twice. I had read that agitation and/or aeration are often necessary with this yeast so I did give the fermenter a gentle swirl every 1-2 days when fermentationm slowed. I thought the TG would be closer to a few points lower based on the 67-71% attenuation predicted by Wyeast. I got 62% attenuation.

Did I make bottle bombs? Did I just need to be more patient? Should I have re-pitched yeast? The beer seemed to taste very good at racking and bottling time - will that change a lot???

Thanks in advance for any input...newbie j

__________________
hapifam is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-01-2009, 05:08 PM   #2
wonderbread23
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Brooklyn
Posts: 1,033
Liked 36 Times on 34 Posts
Likes Given: 1

Default

How long in primary? How long in secondary? I'm assuming this is an extract batch?

I doubt they'll be bottle bombs, but will most likely be a bit more carbonated than you are hoping. I would not think there is any need to repitch on a 1.054 beer.

__________________
wonderbread23 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-01-2009, 05:28 PM   #3
hercher
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Scranton
Posts: 908
Liked 47 Times on 44 Posts
Likes Given: 6

Default

I agree that you probably should have been able to get a little below 1.022, but I don't think you've built bombs. It's hard to say without knowing the recipe -- did you perhaps have a lot of unfermentables in there? If it tasted good, then you're probably fine.

__________________
Two Kids Brewery

Primary: Amber Ale. :(
Seconary: Don't use one, generally
Kegged: Stein beer
Planned: Saison, pale ale, brown ale

"For a quart of ale is a dish for a king." - Shakespeare
hercher is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-01-2009, 09:33 PM   #4
hapifam
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Oregon
Posts: 9
Default

7 days in primary. 10 days in secondary. It is an extract batch. Thanks...j

__________________
hapifam is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-01-2009, 09:34 PM   #5
hapifam
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Oregon
Posts: 9
Default

I didn't appear to have much in the way of unfermentables in there. Thanks...j

__________________
hapifam is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-01-2009, 10:50 PM   #6
android
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Ames, Iowa
Posts: 3,117
Liked 39 Times on 32 Posts
Likes Given: 3

Default

i think you might have jumped the gun on transferring off the primary yeast cake... 7 days IMHO isn't enough time... but live and learn.

__________________
primary: APA

ebay temp controller | thermostat temp controller
android is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-03-2009, 04:46 AM   #7
hapifam
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Oregon
Posts: 9
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by android View Post
i think you might have jumped the gun on transferring off the primary yeast cake... 7 days IMHO isn't enough time... but live and learn.
Thanks for the advice. I only transferred it because it seemed to have nearly stopped fermenting. What is the general rule of thumb for when to transfer??? Thanks in advance...
__________________
hapifam is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-03-2009, 05:05 AM   #8
Benjibbad
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Riverview, FL
Posts: 312
Default

Unless you are adding something ie fruit dry hopping ect. you really have no reason to transfer. I normally keep mine in primary for 3-5 weeks before I go to bottle or transfer to secondary. If you leave it on the yeast cake longer it will give the yeast more time to clean up after themselves which should cut down on an off flavors they may have produced.

__________________

Primary 1: Cedrella Vanilla Porter
Primary 2: Empty
Primary 3: Empty
Primary 4: Coastal Red
Primary 5: Empty
Secondary 1: Empty
Secondary 2: empty
Secondary 3: empty
Keg1: Cherry Lambic
Keg2: A-10 IIPA
Keg3: Crazy Cuban Monk (Cedrella infused Tripel)
Keg4: Kolsch weisen hybrid

Benjibbad is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-03-2009, 10:44 AM   #9
hercher
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Scranton
Posts: 908
Liked 47 Times on 44 Posts
Likes Given: 6

Default

Benjibbad and android are correct in that you may have transferred a bit quickly. Yes, your fermentation may have stopped, but the fermentation process can create by-products that you don't want, such as diacetyl. I typically like to leave my beer in the primary at least a couple days after fermentation appears to be complete.

Having said that, I still think you will be fine.

__________________
Two Kids Brewery

Primary: Amber Ale. :(
Seconary: Don't use one, generally
Kegged: Stein beer
Planned: Saison, pale ale, brown ale

"For a quart of ale is a dish for a king." - Shakespeare
hercher is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-05-2009, 01:15 AM   #10
hapifam
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Oregon
Posts: 9
Default

Just wanted to say THANKS to y'all for the advice and insights!!! I'll let ya know how it turns out in another 10 days or so...

__________________
hapifam is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply



Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Fun mistake carnevoodoo General Beer Discussion 11 05-21-2009 01:21 PM
First Mistake - What Now beachman Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 4 10-20-2008 03:24 PM
Big mistake? ryan_boc Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 6 10-22-2007 06:22 AM
So what do you think of this mistake? pirate252 All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing 9 09-10-2007 04:25 PM
Mistake Big Erik General Techniques 6 02-02-2005 01:59 PM



Newest Threads

LATEST SPONSOR DEALS