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Old 09-18-2009, 06:37 PM   #1
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After racking my 4th batch I'm starting to look for ways to improve the process. I was never interested in the racking adapters for the BB but after a previous thread I was starting to consider it. Here are a few questions I have on it:

  1. Can you use a swamp cooler with the racking adapter? I'd worry about the water getting inside from the cooler via the adapter. I think I need to use a swamp cooler so maybe I shouldn't get the adapter.
  2. If racking to bottle (and not primary to secondary) how do you mix your primer in? Now I use a bottling bucket and it's easy to make sure the primer is mixed in when I drain to the bucket. It would seem difficult to mix in a primer in the BB without agitating the contents.
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I'm a big believer in the BB racking adapters, they really are a pleasure to use. I just wish they weren't so obscenely priced...the bottles themselves are quite reasonable.

I've never submerged one, but I'm confident they wouldn't leak. It's really a well made assembly, nothing like the cheap spigots we use on bottling buckets.

I would still use your bottling bucket, having a racking adapter on your fermenter doesn't mean you can or should bottle directly from it.

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I agree, I use a 6 gal as my primary and 5 gal as my secondary, both with racking adapters (and use there "low O2" technique when racking), but I still use a bottling bucket to ensure I get my priming sugar mixed in well. I picked-up a nice food-grade bucket with a spigot already installed (designed for dispensing bulk beverages) from a local restauraunt supply place, and it works great.

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There are countless threads here where somebody says " I woke up to a wet carpet, and an empty carboy/bucket." As I have not heard this about the BB fittings specifically. I know this fact all to well: Mechanical devices fail.

No Port + Siphon = easy and worry free

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I have two BB's with racking adapters and high flow valves, and they have never leaked, so they would probably be OK to submerse in water. However, you could probably put the BB in a garbage bag or other light plastic bag before submersing it in water. That would add an extra layer of security. I've never done that, but I don't see why it wouldn't work.

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Unless you're completely submerging the BB, the pressure of the beer inside is going to keep anything from migrating in...it's just not an issue.

The racking adapter is SO much easier than fooling around with a racking cane or auto-siphon, plus it allows you get really clear beer by positioning the pickup tube right above the trub. This is a huge advantage for those of us who seldom use a secondary, hard as I try I always end up sucking up a buch of trub with my auto-siphon. Only having to sanitize a short piece of tubing (and the vessel you're racking too of course) is also nice.

Is it worth the silly price? I'm not so sure. But I love the two I've got!

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I have two BB's with racking adapters and high flow valves, and they have never leaked, so they would probably be OK to submerse in water. However, you could probably put the BB in a garbage bag or other light plastic bag before submersing it in water. That would add an extra layer of security. I've never done that, but I don't see why it wouldn't work.

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I suppose that would work, but then I think I would be losing some of the cooling effect as the bag would insulate from the water. Probably not enough to matter though. I thought of another question.

When you take readings, do you just use the adapter?

In my case I'd have to move the carboy instead of leaving it be, but I wouldn't be risking anything by opening the top and using a wine thief. Moving the BB might be a pain but it would be nice to no longer need the thief. And you get less chance for contanimation too.
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I agree, I use a 6 gal as my primary and 5 gal as my secondary, both with racking adapters (and use there "low O2" technique when racking), but I still use a bottling bucket to ensure I get my priming sugar mixed in well. I picked-up a nice food-grade bucket with a spigot already installed (designed for dispensing bulk beverages) from a local restauraunt supply place, and it works great.
I have a decent bottling bucket that sounds like yours, and I guess it works well, but I do like the idea of being able to get rid of another piece of equipment. If I understand the BB setup correctly, I could get rid of the bucket and the auto siphon. That also translates to less items to sanitize. But I do like the bucket for mixing the primer though.
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I pull samples right from the spigot. Sanitize it first, pull the sample, then sanitize again.

If you want to pull samples during fermentation, then I think the BB with racking adapter and spigot is a better fit if you have the capacity to control fermentation in a manner different than the swamp cooler.

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If I understand the BB setup correctly, I could get rid of the bucket
I still don't see how it would eliminate the bottling bucket...unless you intend to prime each bottle individually.
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