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PeterPumpkinhead 12-31-2012 03:09 PM

Beginner needing pointers on the next steps...
 
Hi all, my first ever home beer is currently brewing, but despite following the instructions and watching loads of youtube videos, I'm a but confused as to what to do next:

I have a couple of more days until the lager is done fermenting, at which point, am I supposed to put it into the beer pressuriser/barrel and then bottle it all immediately? OR can I transfer it into pressuriser/barrel, add some sugar to carbonate it (?) then draw on it when I want it??

Thanks in advance?

Mojzis 12-31-2012 03:19 PM

If its a real lager you will need a diacetyl rest at an elevated temp. That is if you haven't used ale yeast. You might was to reply with the yeast you used. Then it would need to be lagered either in bulk or in bottles. Once again that's if it is a real lager, not an ale (except kolsch strains can be lagered for good results after primary).

Next is you want to check with a hydrometer the gravity of the beer when you think it's done fermenting. Do this 3 days in a row, if the gravity changes it is not done. If it shows the same reading all 3 days you can bottle.

Next you need to bottle. Go to northern brewers priming sugar calculator (google that) and you can get the correct amount to add. Table or corn sugar will work. Boil it in a cup of water for 10 minutes, pour that into bottling bucket and drain beer from your fermenter on top of it. Then stir gently and bottle.

If using a keg you can skip the priming sugar if you are force carbonating with co2.

PeterPumpkinhead 12-31-2012 03:23 PM

Hi Mojzis, thanks for this. I will check the yeast..

Ref using a keg - is this the bottling bucket with the tap on? Can I keep it in there with co2 only or is adequate sugar enough?

PeterPumpkinhead 12-31-2012 03:28 PM

PS do I also need to put sugar in every bottle if I am putting sugar in the bottling bucket?

unionrdr 12-31-2012 03:45 PM

The pail with the spigot on it is the bottling bucket. IT CAN'T BE USED AS A KEG! It isn't designed to hold pressure like those plastic pressure bottle things in the UK. not the same thing.
You boil some 2C of water for a few minutes,winding up with about 1.5C. Add the weighed amount of priming sugar to this,stiring to dissolve. Cover & cool a bit before ading to the beer racking into the bottling bucket.

PeterPumpkinhead 12-31-2012 04:02 PM

This is what I have to put it in from the fermenter - is this just for bottling from or can I leave the beer in there and draw on it when I want it? If I can, does it have to be forced with CO2 or will the sugar do the trick?

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...fx7z0NbLZIQ348

william_shakes_beer 12-31-2012 04:11 PM

That is a bottling bucket. It is used to mix the priming sugar with the green beer and provide a conveinent method of filling the bottles. If you wish to keg, you need a stainless steel vessel designed to hold pressure. Cornelius is a manufacturer that makes 5 gallon "keg" containers for the fountain soda industry. It's what most home brewers who choose to keg use. A keg would not have a spigot at the bottom. It would have 2 valves in the top. One for applying pressure (CO2) and one to draw the product out from the bottom of a long dip tube. BTW, in addition to the vessel above, you need a filling wand to ensure you fill the bottles from the bottom without splashing. Splashing beer causes oxidation, which tastes like wet cardboard.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornelius_keg

PeterPumpkinhead 12-31-2012 04:28 PM

Ahh yes I've seen those, I will get one...

Bit annoyed as this ''kit'' I purchased claimed it had everything I needed, yet none of these things, just the fermenter, the bottling bucket, a spoon and a syphon!!

Thanks!

unionrdr 12-31-2012 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by william_shakes_beer (Post 4731927)
That is a bottling bucket. It is used to mix the priming sugar with the green beer and provide a conveinent method of filling the bottles. If you wish to keg, you need a stainless steel vessel designed to hold pressure. Cornelius is a manufacturer that makes 5 gallon "keg" containers for the fountain soda industry. It's what most home brewers who choose to keg use. A keg would not have a spigot at the bottom. It would have 2 valves in the top. One for applying pressure (CO2) and one to draw the product out from the bottom of a long dip tube. BTW, in addition to the vessel above, you need a filling wand to ensure you fill the bottles from the bottom without splashing. Splashing beer causes oxidation, which tastes like wet cardboard.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornelius_keg

WRONG!! That's a pressure barrel that they get in kits in the UK typically. they usually look like a barrel. You prime the beer in there after racking from primary. After a couple weeks,you serve from it. It is def not a bottling bucket. It's just not something sold or used over here.

PeterPumpkinhead 12-31-2012 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unionrdr (Post 4732054)
WRONG!! That's a pressure barrel that they get in kits in the UK typically. they usually look like a barrel. You prime the beer in there after racking from primary. After a couple weeks,you serve from it. It is def not a bottling bucket. It's just not something sold or used over here.

Does this mean I can literally serve from it (straight to a glass) once I have syphoned the beer into it?

and if I can, do I need the CO2 thing or will the sugar carbonate it enough?


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