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Old 07-01-2005, 04:57 PM   #11
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My "local" HBS really isn't as close as I would like, and I would rather not make the trip. I really think you right about going over there and talking to some of their people. I am sure they get beginner questions all the time in a place like that. I think if I have some extra time in the next couple of weeks I may head over there to pick up the rest of the equipment I need as well as pick up a recipe kit.

I did call Austin Homebrew Supply and they informed me that the extract version of those kits might contain some milled grain, but it will come in muslin bags. So I may have to do a little steeping. It is not prehopped but the kit will come with pellet hops, and there will be detailed recipe instructions provided by them.

Here is about how I would do it I think, correct this if I am wrong:

Heat water to around 155, add grains in muslin bag - let it go for around 30 or 45 minutes or so.

Remove Bag, bring water to a boil, add and dissolve extract.

Add bittering hopps let boil for about an hour

Add flavor/aroma hops and let go for about 5 or 10 minutes

cool it and pitch yeasties, ferment etc etc...

I know that wasn't very descriptive, and I am aware of all the sanitizing and yeast prep procedures, I just want to make sure I have those things listed in the right order. I mainly cant remember if you steep first or add extract first. Just let me know what you guys think.

You have it all in the right order. The only think I would add is that you want to bring the wort back to a boil after adding the extract and before adding bittering hops...


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Old 07-01-2005, 05:10 PM   #12
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Ok one thing, do I add the extract at a high temp like 155, or should it be boiling when I do, or does it really not make a difference as long as it is boiling by the time I add hops? Thanks again for the help guys.



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Old 07-01-2005, 05:13 PM   #13
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IMO it doesn't make much of a difference. I would bring it to boiling before adding the extract though...that's what I have always done.

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Old 07-01-2005, 05:26 PM   #14
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I'll just do that then. It all seems pretty straightforward. The only thing I am really concerned about is the sanitizing. I am afraid to mess with the beer much cause of the risk. That is I am uneazy about doing gravity test and moving to a secondary, because I may oxidize or contaminate my beer. And what if I leave my stuff out too long after it has been sanitized etc etc. I don't want my first brew to taste like ass, lol. I am half expecting it to be a kinda crappy, but that is ok with me, gives me something to build on. I am so eager to get started too, it sucks. But these few weeks will give me some time to make sure I have all the equipment and knoweldge, I am reading everything I can. I should be well prepared when brew day comes.

This is an off topic question, but how much beer will fit in your typical party keg, not the cornelius ones brewers use but the ones you get from the beerstores for like college parties. I only ask for comparison purposes. I know that they have to have a bit more then 5 gallons, but I am kinda curious as to how much. I am not very good at approximating volumes from just looking.

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Old 07-01-2005, 06:37 PM   #15
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My "local" HBS really isn't as close as I would like, and I would rather not make the trip. I really think you right about going over there and talking to some of their people.

So I may have to do a little steeping. It is not prehopped but the kit will come with pellet hops, and there will be detailed recipe instructions provided by them.

Heat water to around 155, add grains in muslin bag - let it go for around 30 or 45 minutes or so.

Remove Bag, bring water to a boil, add and dissolve extract.

Add bittering hopps let boil for about an hour

Add flavor/aroma hops and let go for about 5 or 10 minutes

cool it and pitch yeasties, ferment etc etc...
know what you mean. mine is 1.5 hours away. i just figured you could look at the different brews, hops, etc., and maybe have a better idea of waht your getting.

it's good that it's not pre-hopped. when the HBS buys bulk extract, it's usually better than the canned stuff. the extract/grain kits are much better than the plain extract. you get more flavor and body. the plan looks good, except you need to sparge the grains w/ about 150-160 degree water after they steep for 45 minutes, then bring the volumn up to as close to 5 gallons as possible. keep in mind you'll be adding some poundage of extract. a full, 5 g wort boil is always more beneficial for the brew, hops, etc (watch out for boil overs!). if you have to top up the primary to get 5-5.5 gallons, it's no biggie.

like you said, i'm sure AHS will send intsructions, but you can try www.defalcos.com (my HBS). they have a menu on the left side of the home page. click recipes, then beer recipes, and it will have their instructions on a grain/extract brew. i used their directions for years.....

keep us posted.
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Patrck17, I went into AHBS today since I work in Austin and needed a few things. I talked to them about their starter kits and they said all of their kits are partial mash kits. You have to steep grains. So, I ask them for the instructions to their outmeal stout kit and they gave it to me. If you would like I think I can scan it in and send it to you. Let me know if you would like to read the instructions.

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Old 07-02-2005, 02:23 AM   #17
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Awsome DBAib12, thanks for going over there and remembering me while you were there. I would absolutely like to take a look at those instructions if you could scan them that would be awsome. I am not sure if my email is avaiable, but I will PM it to you just incase. Thanks agian for asking for me. Did you pick up any goodies while you were there?

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Absolutely, My father is coming for a visit and wants to brew a famous ESB of mine. I went into AHS for 5.2 buffer and some grains. AHS does not sell british pale malt so I had to get it from HomebrewHQ in Dallas. My father stopped by and picked it up for us . He thinks he helps but mostly he just drinks and watches the magic. Are we there yet? I remembered you and ask the guys at AHS what they had to get you going. They gave me the instructions and the minimal equipment list. I will post them both.

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