Thanks for the comments. Sorry to hear about the one first batch that didn't work out the best. For making sure everything falls into the collection ball and siphon is not needed you might need to purge the collection ball a few times. Depending on how much trub you have for what you are brewing. In one of the other threads a member posts this regarding a similar situation..
hey everyone, I originally posted the note far below and thought of deleting it based on my recent check up on my brew. I stand corrected on my original post! ALL of the trub fell into my collection ball! Yes, ALL of it... so much so, I had enough beer in the ball to take a Final Gravity reading without even having to access the main tank...
here was the thing... I did have a LOT of trub that I put into the fermenter, thinking "its going to fall out anyway"... well, I had so much that obviously the ball could not collect it all. so when I finally started to purge and replace my collection ball (3x), I was 'thinking' that the trub on the side walls would never make it into the collection ball.. well, guess what? tonight I checked and as I said, all the trub fell out... nothing but clear, clear mothers milk in that thing!
going to dry hop her tomorrow and report back when she's kegged!
anyway, my first post is below... I just didn't want anyone to be too concerned if the trub didn't apper to fall out, it will... however, if you have a lot of sediment and yeast cake, pull some out after fermentation stops for a few days...
as far as dumping the collection ball goes, I'm not certain all the trub will come out.. a best practice may be to try to get as much clear wort as you can with as little trub as you can so that you can be certain that the trub will fall out... Right now I have a lot of Trub stuck to the sides of the conical which will never make it out and into the collection ball... If this isn't something I can find a way to remedy in the next few batches, i would be very disappointed since I bought two of them..
I wont be quick to judge yet though... it's a new product and it's the people who's idea in this community who will perfect the process. I cant wait until more people post tips and tricks on this product!
Eagle & Schmitt Brewing
Keg 1: Golden Lawnmower Ale
Keg 2: Spiked Chocolate Cherry Stout
Keg 3: OFF
Keg 4: Al's Too-Harded IPA
Fermenting: Don't Wheaty, Be Hoppy V.2
Next Up: Brown Ale